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      “Any community that gets its kicks pretending to be idiots, will eventually be overtaken by actual idiots who believe they are in good company.”

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    As long as the pedo shit is blocked i dont see why u would want to defederate instead of letting each user block what they want. We need a user level federated blocklist.

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      Anything illegal posted on a remote server will bring legal trouble to you as a server admin the moment it federates onto your instance. Therefore I completely understand them defederating from instances with a high risk of illegal activity.

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      Looked at the list and did a bit of searching as well as checking the reasons they were defederated. Looks like the top one is basically a trolling group akin to GNAA or some of the proto 4chan or SomethingAwful shit for those who remember back that far.

      I can understand why overt trolling and possibly illegal content would be defederated.

      That said I would like to see more diverse opinions and sources on my Lemmy feed though. There has to be a base somewhere that isn’t literal nazis but isn’t open socialists either.

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        That said I would like to see more diverse opinions and sources on my Lemmy feed though. There has to be a base somewhere that isn’t literal nazis but isn’t open socialists either.

        Please, this. Lemmy is boring as all hell. 95%+ of users have the same opinions. It’s a giant echo chamber.

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      Yeah, there are more further down in the list too. I was honestly shocked to see how many blatant pedo instances there were.

      Makes me wonder about all the times that instances like lemmy.world got brigaded by child porn posters. Was it people against the fediverse, or just shit leaking in from the blatant pedo instances?

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    I have to know what the Detroit soccer team did to get so high on that list. Somebody here must know. Please!

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      I was going to guess racially based comments about crime in detroit idk

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        Really? I know they have a bunch of porn bots, I don’t think I ever interacted with someone on there, just saw bot posts in my federated feed. I never noticed anything pedoish, but of course I don’t click content warnings so I wouldn’t know, I’m not interested in NSFW stuff on fedi.

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    How bad are these that Hexbear didn’t even make the list? Drilling through on the clickable version here makes it clear that the #1, poa.st, has the same basic content as Hexbear, but I’m assuming it’s somehow way worse. Just imagine.

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      hexbear isn’t even malicious. hexbear is spicy at best. not nearly as bad as lemmygrad, which is outright repugnant in its overt hostility. hexbear users are at least CAPABLE of communicating, whereas in my experience lemmygrad users pull the animal farm squealer move and defecate on the floor before storming out.

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        I’m on hexbear. It’s a good community. It’s leftist though so conservatives and libruls won’t like it. But you can have a good argument and find like minded people.

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          The thing is, you can ONLY have a conversation with extremely like minded people. If you are not tip-of-the-left authoritarian, you are called a filthy lib and shunned.

          Sadly it just suffers the same syndrome as that conservative sub on reddit: “Anyone who doesn’t agree with me on every important and semi important point is literally the same as my worst enemy and I will fill their inbox with insults”

          I disagreed with the way they often brigade posts and they said I was “indiscernible from the racist, fascist party” from my country. Like they went through the effort of looking up where I was from and the political parties there to find the most right wing one to name call and insult me with lol. That says a lot about the community culture, in my opinion.

          It also has heavy Russian apologist content. Like, I even understand that MLs love China and excuse everything they do, but Russia is literally an right wing oligarchy with no health care and crippled social benefits that is led by an extreme right wing authoritarian fascist. I get that they are China’s ally by the enemy-of-my-enemy principle, but that doesn’t mean they are automatically good.

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            Not like over here, where I just mentioned another community I belonged to. Very different😒. Congratulations!

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              Ha, true. Well on the bright side, it looks like you only had one person insult you and they didn’t try to dox you so at least the lashback is quite tame 😅 I would call that a very positive experience if we were over there haha

              Everyone hates everyone I guess…

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                lol the last time I was doxed was some MAGA freak on Nextdoor. Now that’s a fucking cesspool of filth…

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          Hexbear rules. 40 year old liberal tech nerds who grew up on American propaganda hate it because they hate change and congregations of young people.

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          It may well be “leftist”, but it’s also maximum authoritarian. Hexbears love fascism like a raccoon loves trash. If you’re anything but a full-on Nazi, absolutely including being a genocide denier, you’ll be relentlessly attacked on there.

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            Just not true. There are a lot of anarchists on there. In fact a large portion of their emotes are dedicated to left unity.

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          It’s the kind of place you go when you are bored out of your mind, online and want to see some circus shit going on without being sprinkled in toxic dung

          It’s horrible but stomachable and you get to see very special people you didn’t know exist. A living cautionary tale of going too far

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            I don’t have that experience at all. But I’m not there to try and win any battles. Lots of true allies.

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              I mean they are literally Mao Zedong figures with rainbow clothes it’s fucking bizzare. I never expected to see gay Chinese communists and queer soviets hence for me it’s like a trip

              I only had similar feeling when seeing dark skinned Polish aryans neonazis, the clash of history is just too funny or at least it would be if it was a stand up comedy and they didn’t want to kill me on sight, just like the hexbears for that matter

              In any case as long as you pretend to be one of em it’s always super nice, cult like, sisterhood but they have cute tendency for wanting to kill you immediately after you reveal yourself

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                I can see the broad strokes you are painting with. I’m not them, I’m there. That is all. Continue working to bring down the patriarchy!🏴🏴🏴🤘🏿

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      they’re neo nazi pedophiles iirc and in the brief time i was on a fedi instance federated with them i saw one of them trying to goad a trans person i knew with suicidal tendencies to kill herself because he thought it would be funny. like its so many orders of magnitude worst its just completely stupid to compare them at all. Like here’s some of the defed reasons from the top of the incredibly long list of instances that have defedded it:

      Nazi content
      Racism
      antisemitism, racism, homophobia
      Nationalsozialistisches Gedankengut
      Hate speech
      racist slurs, anti-semitic stuff, etc
      Nazisme, Transphobie, Racisme, Antisemitisme
      Admins are having Nazi symbolics in their profile
      racism, pedophilia, harassment
      Serveur d’extrême droite / Néonazi
      Repeated harassment targetting specific users
      Transphobia, Hate Speech, Nazi Symbology. Lack of Moderation.
      Homophobia, transphobia
      Hosting neonazis
      transphobia / homophobia / racism / queerphobia / nazi combo instance

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    I visited a few out of mindless curiosity and ignorance. I have no idea wtf I read and now the FBI is after me…

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    Can someone give me a brief rundown on what it means to be federated vs defederated? New to lemmy

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    You thankfully appear to have not been exposed to a “proper” hexbear thread where all they can do to communicate is call you a shitlib for doing things like acknowledging genocide.

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      You mean like all the biden supporters on here defending his support for genocide?

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      Do you have examples? I am not doubting, since I’ve seen loads of people saying it. But I’ve never come across it myself.

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        I have the entire instance blocked in my client, so I can’t even go searching for a thread for you. But if you don’t, it should be incredibly easy to poke the hexbear, so to speak. Lemme grab you a link…

        Here, this one should work. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

        Find an appropriate sublemmy on Hexbear and post this, ideally in a context that explicitly declares you oppose genocide. You’ll get nothing but the following in your thread:

        1. Accusations that you are a “shitlib”. Any attempt by you to find out what this word means will result in additional mockery.
        2. Denials of the Uyghur genocide.
        3. Adoration of the CCP, especially Xi Jinping (but Hexbear likes any authoritarian tyrant in China, so any CCP politician may end up adulated).
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          Lol. Absolute nonsense. Every time anyone is asked for an example of bad Hexbear behaviour they can only ever say “I HAVE NO EXAMPLES BUT I PROMISE IT WILL HAPPEN”. Speak about other people like they’re human beings pl0x

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          I do agree that the hard left seems to enjoy using “liberal” as an insult, knowing that what most Americans interpret as “liberal” is different than the academic definition they use. It needlessly diverts the conversation and makes them think they’re superior.

          Saying “shitlib” is even worse. Basically an adhom attack, not acceptable when the other party is being civil and respectful.

          On #2 and #3, I don’t think that is relevant to the original accusation. Of course they will uphold their own views. But #1 is very valid. Though I wish to see examples of it because I have not.

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    What is varishangout…net? Initially read it as yarishangout.net and wondered why a space for Toyota Yaris owners got defedded. Also wondering how stereophonic.space got defedded?

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    Yeah? Can you provide even 1 example of someone on Hexbear posting something a) civil and b) not fascist?

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      On sync at least if you open tall images from the post it will be readable.

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      Some mobile clients open the thumbnail version of images. If you instruct your client to open the image in a browser, you’ll see that the url has thumbnail instructions appended to the end and those can be trimmed off of the end to show the full image.

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        What mobile clients are those and why are people using them? The image displays perfectly in Voyager.

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    #2 represent! Getting defederated is street cred. If crybabies don’t like you you’re doing something right.

    I don’t mess with fedi anymore though, besides dicking around on here. Socially I’m all about Nostr now, it’s the future of the non corpo social media, federated network architecture is simply too prone to abuse.

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    Wow, there’s a lot more pedophilia stuff on there than I initially realized. Really blatant shit too? I’m surprised that’s even allowed without the feds cracking down on it immediately, because the whole point of ActuvityPub is that everything is open. So how the hell do the pedos manage to hide their tracks?

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    Is this your overview? If so maybe you could decode some of the punycode in the domains