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There’s no jailbait, no upskirts, no fatpeoplehate, so Lemmy is still better
Right why would we want to be that
I miss fatpeoplehate.
Wow, I was there for the others but I wasn’t aware of an upskirt trend. If it’s what it sounds like, seems like a crime
“Consent” was not a popular topic on early Reddit. Or the internet writ large, I guess.
I think it got banned around the same time as the jailbait sub. Reddit was and is a cesspool
no upskirts 🤣
you must have NSFW filtered.
There was a subreddit where people took upskirt creep pics of random women, not models. If that’s happening somewhere on Lemmy I hope our instance is
federateddefederated with it. Porn is one thing but that was awful.Edit: Goddamn spell check makes me sound like a fucking scumbag
No, Reddit 10 years ago was the kind of place where people who knew things would correct people who didn’t.
Pretty much all social media today, including Lemmy, are now places where people who don’t know things correct people who do.
The internet as a whole was so much better for this.
Free speech and exchanging of idea and views was great. Most of my time on YouTube was spent looking at out and out discussions, back and forth, about religion. Which seeing as I went to a religious school I didn’t really have anyone to talk to that was very helpful for me.
Now people come to a conclusion and stick with it. But they also get encouraged by people doing exactly the same upvoting their view and down voting others. Evidence doesn’t matter. Reddit and redditors used to encourage upvoting alternative opinions.
People are going so far as to want certain views banned just because it isn’t their view. It’s scary how much people want to be restricted. Reddit used to be great for free speech but now its terrible. I was hoping Lemmy would, by it’s federated nature, be an exchange of different ideas and views but if anything it is a lot worse. (I actually find the mods to largely be okay. But the people are terrible, worse than reddit is at this moment it time)
So no Lemmy is nothing like reddit of old at all. I’d love to go back to reddit from 10 years ago.
Well said on all counts.
Reddit was never perfect, but in my 12+ years there, it was never as bad as Lemmy has been the entire time I’ve been here.
Basically I’m only still active here because Reddit’s mobile app is such trash and Lemmy is more convenient to browse from a phone.
I was hoping that by being such a small and growing community I could help influence it’s growth.
But watching how incorrect things about economy/business are upvoted, I’m getting sick of being down voted for having an economics degree and attempting to share some knowledge.
For me its the growing extremist stances and ragebait articles, now that its got more users, the horrendous lack of moderation is starting to show
Yeah, my main sub I participated in back on Reddit was /r/AcademicBiblical (also went to a religious-ish school growing up).
There’s nothing like that sub here, and honestly even the sub itself isn’t quite what it used to be when I pop back over to look in from time to time.
The web is just a different sort of place from what it used to be.
t. someone that doesn’t know anything that gets corrected all the time.
not really. earliest days of reddit didnt even have subreddits.
lemmy cant be reddit 10 years ago, because the internet has changed in that time too
Yeah, but reddits more than 10 years old…
Here’s an article from 2013 talking about subs
Subreddits were added in 08. The great Digg migration was 2010. I feel old.
Shit, I remember Fark.
Which was basically what reddit was when it started, fark just stayed that way. I think it’s even still going…
Pfft, kids these days - I remember usenet.
Damn, skipped right over Slashdot.
What’s up with how toxic comments are on /. these days?
Try to tell a kid about BBS boards nowadays and they start singing about something called a BBL Drizzy…
My local BBS was great, but when the provider became an ISP, the BBS became a ghost town because everyone went to IRC and Usenet.
That ISP was also the local jerky company. Dad made the Jerky, son ran the modem pool. I miss the 90s.
I never had a Fark account but I remember following them religiously. I remember something about them crowdfunding an arena name for a day about an unsolicited finger in the ass.
DAE member Digg? I member that.
remember when image macros took over the whole thing?
No. I’d say the whole internet felt different 10+ years ago. Including this, what people are on here and how they behave. And I’d day the average intellect is different. But that could also be me growing up.
It’s different but the same. We used to get hit by the conservative bury brigades. Now, we get people actually trying to steer the narrative with somewhat thoughtful bad faith arguments.
It’s far more insidious now, and takes vigilance to shut down.
I don’t remember that many political arguments. At least not this way conservative<->progressive. I remember them mostly from the comment section of news articles and YouTube videos (since YT has been a thing) and of course Twitter. But less so from dedicated discussion places like forums and such. But my perspective is probably skewed. I wasn’t really part of early Reddit. And I’m not American and we have/had different discussions here. Well… Maybe I wasn’t that interested in political discussions on the internet when I was young(er). But the places I used to frequent were more focused on specific topics, technology and not about ideology (apart from free software ideology.)
But trolling, flaming, baiting etc has been part of internet culture for a long time. I don’t remember how they called brigading before Reddit. I think that is a term I learned in the last few years.
I really enjoyed various communities on usenet. But most of my favouites moved to FB and usenet is now a cesspit of spam. I learned a hell of lot from alt.solar.pv and alt.energy.renewable, and made some great connections via aus.motorcycles. But I wouldn’t bother going there today, even in one of the few remaining feeds.
I feel like Lemmy has WAY more crazy political views, like extreme leftist and BoTh SiDeS people. That’s probably more of a symptom of Russian propoganda across the wider Internet that wasn’t as prevalent 10+ years ago.
We barely talked about politics at all back when the great Digg migration happened. People were interested in far more fun things back then.
Hmmmm, I remember heaps of people being into Ron Paul because he wanted to legalise weed, and Bernie is a perennial favourite
a symptom of Russian propogandm
There it is. All you needy to say really.
This also depends on what instances your instance federates with though. You could go to an instance that defederates from the more politically extreme instances.
TIL that egalitarianism and saving humanity from unrestrained capitalism is extremely left.
Not really, it’s way more decentralized than reddit.
And there is a lot less users.
Eh, if you go back far enough, there was a time when reddit had fewer users than the fediverse has now.
I was on reddit 10 years ago. Different vibes than old reddit for sure. Still way less users on Lemmy.
Mm yes, reddit started with out with tens of thousands of users over night.
I think the situation here on lemmy is pretty comparable to early reddit. People forget it started out as mostly a nerdy programmer centric site as well, and then grew from there. It’s a bit jarring to see people here insisting on artificially creating communities and pushing/guiliting people into posting more just to bring the numbers up. “the narwhal bacon’s at midnight” (although it was always cringe) started because reddit was a niche site less known than 4chan to begin with, so it was just a nonsensical dog whistle.
Do I miss the focused subreddits around specific topics? Sure, but I also think they will come naturally with time if lemmy survives just as they did with reddit. And the whole reason we’re here today to begin with is because of an unsatiable hunger for growth.
And a lot less people posting “what’s something that used to be cool, but isn’t now?” posts every single day. It’s gotten to the point where I can usually guess what the top answer will be.
I guess I meant more of community/user feel? Whenever I browse reddit (w/o account, don’t hurt me) the popular is full of AITA, AIO and such.
Lemmy’s far smaller than Reddit was 10 or even 15 years ago.
There are some good foundations in place, but there’s a loonnnggg way to go before we’re seeing platform maturity.
Pretty much. At least Lemmy is a lot more like Reddit was when I started on Reddit (~2015), than Reddit is now.
The humor reminds me of early reddit. Very needy. Lots of Star Trek, Stargate and Linux. Of course there are a lot of differences too, but it does feel a little closer to the original techie reddit base.
No, absolutely not. Lemmy is held together by “it’s not Reddit” while Reddit was “here’s this cool stuff!”
Close…but no.
Reddit was good for some fresh content, but a decade ago it was still a lot of bots and karma whoring taking over, reposts, and people falling over themselves to be the first to make the flippant quips that got all the upvotes on any topic. Reddit still did have all the nsfw/nsfl subs then, so there was still a little Wild West left in it.
That said, Reddit very much still had a community feel to it a decade ago. IMO that’s completely gone in all but the niche subs that are there specifically for the community. You don’t get to have conversations there much anymore. It’s usually someone deriding you pretty quickly when they disagree, and the downvote button is the first thing hit.
Lemmy is IMO still trying to settle on what it actually is. I think it’s better than Reddit was a decade ago because people are more inclined to converse than quip (though that very much does happen) but the low hanging fruit comment doesn’t always get the most upvotes, which is really nice. I enjoy that the fediverse is a group of connected communities rather than a bunch of communities all under one roof like Reddit - but I guess that’s the point, isn’t it?
No but hopefully it is something better than Reddit has ever been. It’s awesome watching the community grow and cater to more niche interests.
Not really, no, but it is good in it’s own way.
Reddit didn’t have the communism and far left propaganda that lemmy has, so it’ll be an uphill battle to clean that shit up enough to get lemmy even remotely close to where Reddit was 10 years ago.
It’s so fascinating, how some people create their own narrative, in their echochamber of a head, and then project it onto everyone else.
Please go touch some grass
Incredible what it looks like outside your bubble huh? Lemmy has different instances so everyone can build a community without nearly as much potential censorship like Reddit. This is the community that naturally formed, so maybe what you call “far left propaganda” the rest of the world calls “normal”
Naaah… that’s not it. Lemmy is just as susceptible to propaganda as Reddit ever was. And if you think there isn’t outside influence happening here, you’re as blind as they get, or part of it.
The rest of the world doesn’t call shouting at people to not vote during elections “normal-“ yet is all over lemmy.
So, let’s not define normal by what we want to see. Mmmkay?
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Found the Hexbear instance user.
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Cool story. Found the troll that has nothing to add to the discussion aside from snarky insults.
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The crowd here is kinda weird. But I like em for their humor so far.
We need a new meme style to explode and the small communities to grow, then we’d be there.
Lemmy now is in many ways already the same as reddit is today when you consider social dynamics. This is mostly due to how all of social media using traditional formulas devolved into competition in unproductive cynicism.
Check out Tildes if you want to see how reddit was back then, it’s the closest thing.
