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… Is it possible the office is in Southeast London but the actual work is North and West?
How fucking spoiled are Europeans when they won’t take a job on the other side of town???
I love that you reversed it, when it should be “how terrible do Americans have it where we have to commute so far just to get to work”
And it says the hours are 9 to 5. Who the fuck cares then? If it takes you four hours to get from south east London to north west London, then there’s half of your day. Grab some crisps or some spotted dick and put some footie on your vodafone in the tube.
I live in a suburb to the east of Phoenix. I wouldn’t even consider a job on the west side. Nothing to do with Europe, just the reality of a large city.
Where I live, you can drive for three hours and still be within the city limits
Unrelated but this is literally the first time in my life I’ve seen an actual 9-5 job, I only ever see 8-5 or 9-6
That extra hour of wage theft is why it’s the most prevalent kind of theft.
That seems like a US thing? All Nordic Europe countries 8-16 is the US version of 9-5. 8-17 (9-6) would be a 4 days a week job hitting the normal 37 hour work week.
Not all Nordic countries. The main standard work weeks in Sweden are 40 hours for office work employees. Our collective union agreements for most office work places I know of agree on at least half hour unpaid lunch and at least two 15 minute paid breaks each work day. Every place I worked for had flexible hours, which meant I could choose between turning up between 7 or 9, as long as I didn’t miss meetings and worked 40 hours a week at an average, based on monthly calculations. And any overtime was compensated with double time off and/or monetary overtime compensation.
This will of course be different for shift work or nurse/doctor positions. But I’ve never worked an 8-16 job.
8-16 each day is 40 hours not counting the breaks. (Counting them would make it 37)
So do Swedish people work from 8-16, 9-5 or do office workers work from 8-17, 9-6 everyday (inkluding Friday)?
I have family in Malmö and that is not the case for them. Can’t speak in the standard for Sweden but I worked closely with Norwegians and they had the same 8-16 (8-15 Friday) in Oslo as we did in in Denmark(KBH).
Well, the standard recommended work hours would be 08-17 (8 AM to 5 PM), with one hour unpaid lunch, so 8 hours paid. And you can take those paid breaks, or even combine them with lunch. Most places (that don’t have shifts, scheduled appointments or aren’t school or health care related) allow for this kind of flexibility.
My current work place has 39 hours a week during the half year during or close to winter and around 37 hours during the summer or the months adjoining summer. Then again, most people tend to flex actual hours worked, e.g. working 4 hours on Monday and Friday, and working more hours during the same week or compensating for it later. But you HAVE to take at least 30 minutes of lunch, and the workplace tries to enforce the paid breaks as well. So some, like me, take an hour off for lunch, but use our half hour unpaid lunch and add on breaks 2x15 with pay (which is billed to our clients, as we’re legally entitled to). So I can show up anywhere between 06:30 and 11:00 (as long as I don’t have deadlines or meetings) and decide how I want to dispose the hours of my time on schedule.
And I get 7 weeks off, paid, every year. And pad it out with overtime so that I work maybe a week of overtime and get two weeks extra off for holidays.
Here in Finland the standard seems to be 8-16, with 30 min lunch, for a total of 37,5h work per week
Definitely not a US thing. Here in the UK I don’t think I’ve worked 9-5 for over 20 years…
It’s because they reckon on 8-hour days but then under UK law they have to give you two 15-minute breaks and one 30-minute lunch. So they decide that they don’t like that so you’ve got to work the hours back so they add an extra hour on and then claim that your break times don’t count.
But the problem with that is the only reason that I’m having a break in the town rather than at my house is because of all the other hours I’m doing around it. So really they should be paying for it. Capitalism is going to capitalism.
Before my current job, any job I’ve had had an 8.5 hour shift with a half an hour unpaid lunch. But I managed to score a gig where I have an 8.0 hour shift with a half an hour paid lunch. It seems uncommon in the US, but I guess it must be common elsewhere.
Yeah, theres an hour for lunch. It works out to 8 hour days
You’re supposed to get paid for that.
You get salary, its paid
But do you get paid for 8 hour days or 9 hour days?
8 to 5 is 9 hours. They don’t get to not pay you for your lunch break.
You get paid for the month. You arent paid by the hour, you are paid for working for them.
Its a different mindset
OK so next time you’ve done your work for the day, try going home early. Do let us know how it goes.
You aren’t paid by the hour as long as it suits the company. As soon as it suits you, you’re damn well going to sit there until 5pm staring at the ceiling if you have to, THEN you can go home.
That depends on your manager. Ive had some that let me work whenever, one that wanted butt in seat, and right now, I play video games so long as Im reachable.
My favorite is when the title says remote or local to you, but then the body of the posting says you would be required to relocate and that it was intentionally posted in multiple cities to reach a wider audience.
If I wanted to work in Minnesota, I would have searched for jobs in Minnesota.
why does everyone have to have “excellent” skills? just logically not everyone can have excellent skills, or there wouldn’t be excellent skills. i very much doubt everyone currently working there also has equally “excellent” skills. you can’t just say you have to be perfect. i fucking hate this shit
What I hate more are the entry level jobs that will be like that. Like bro it’s an entry level job and you’re expecting people to have a super deep understanding makes no sense. Like I get it’s just marketing and a way to lower the number of applicants to get just the really good ones but it makes it so much harder to figure out what level of skill a job is looking for if they all say they want experts with certain skills or tools.
Yeah at my job at the end of each week my boss will assign priorities to tasks as not priority to high priority. She’ll change them around and discuss why for about 45 minutes and by the end of the meeting every single task is listed as highest priority every week. If everything is always equally the highest priority is anything a priority anymore? Lol
I hate the ones that are listed as remote, but when you read deeper it says remote - in x location, if there was a way to filter those out of searches, it would be convenient.
Is that the ones where they claim it’s remote but really they need you in the office 3 days a week?
My favorite is the remote - location jobs. Almost none of them are actually remote, they just want more people to apply so their quota will be met.
This is a huge problem. During my several months of job searching that drove me nuts. Completely different stated in the US. Someone’s opposite side of the country. I would report them to LinkedIn and LinkedIn said there’s nothing wrong. Fucked up LinkedIn
I once made the mistake of saying I was willing to relocate, like to a different city or something, and they took that to mean anywhere on the planet. And all the jobs they were asking me about when weird places like Saudi Arabia, and it wasn’t even well paid.
Search: part time jobs
- Results: part time job!
- Fine print: full time job, some overtime mandatory
Search: work from home
- Some office time required
Search: job at a place
- Travel required up to 50 miles
Search: one way international flight ticket Boeing planes only
Entry level: Minimum 2 years experience
WTF are demonstrable analytical skills?
The ability to call out BS or contradictory requirements in a job posting.
You’re hired!
Hey at least it is in the same city, I used to get ones for 2000 Km away.
Well, it’s all Earth.
I await the ones for the Moon or Mars…
This isn’t just super common either. It’s the fucking norm, and the guys who are deviating from the norm are the ones who just plain don’t tell you where they are.
Bloody ell mate, u ad to read all the way to the bott um. Bunch o wankers that bunch
bunchlot
Is 48800 enough to live jn London?
Yes. Even £20,000 is liveable in London although if you really want to maximise your London experience you’ll want more than that.
if you really want to maximize your london experience you should rent a closet in a hallway for £5000 per month
Broom experience, Requiem
It does qualify for the city’s Living Rent program
You have to go weast and Nouth
