I get it, Biden is old and that’s a problem, but why doesn’t anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein’s Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can’t remember common names?

Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?

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    Republican candidates aren’t held to the same standards because Republican voters don’t care (or they actually like it).

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      He gave them $1,600 in stimulus checks. Some of the poorer people think he’ll make things more affordable for people, lower costs, make crypto better, and essentially just rain down money. They have to think of their families future, and apparently they think Trump will do that. They don’t care what he’s done, he’s a means to an end, and if they can wrap an American flag around him, profess him the new Messiah, and ban abortions to do it, they will.

      Republicans are either extremely ignorant or they just lack any and all empathy. They get their news from Fox that shields them from the truth, and they live in constant fear of blood-drinking evil liberals, illegal racist/murderer aliens, and that their money is being stolen from them by undesirables that feed off the system.

      Their entire world view is a facade to make rich people richer and their ignorance of that makes them expendable pawns. It’d be comical if it wasn’t so tragic…

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    Most of the people who think Trump should drop out have been loudly opposing him for a long time. There isn’t just one single thing they object to, no great unifying theme they can point at and say “This is why he should not run,” because Everything about him is a reason why he should absolutely not be president. Even his Felony conviction is, while perhaps more than a drop, just a splash in the bucket of what should be utterly career ending circumstances.

    The people who still support Trump don’t care about any of that. They’re not going to suddenly see one particular turn-off and decide that’s it, that’s why Trump should back out. They’re committed, in too deep, they can’t back down now because it would mean the Libs were actually right all along, and that presents, to them, an existential threat. And in the end, it’s the Republican way.

    When Democrats, even popular ones, fuck up, other Democrats are much more likely to turn on them, to call for and get resignations. With Republicans, that’s almost unheard of. Republicans take Part Unity to an extreme, circling the wagons and assuming a full defensive position no matter how incredibly abhorrent the crime, no matter how blatant the evidence. Today we’re seeing the perfect example. Biden fucked up a debate, stumbling over his own words like an old man well past his prime, and the party is calling for him to step down. Trump has built his whole political career on stumbling over his own words, with the only cogent statements he manages being blatant lies, and his people would rather murder their neighbors than see him lose.

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      As much as I agree with everything you say, there is one more thing that needs to be said.

      I started watching the debate fully aware of the fact that Trump was a POS. Trump was a POS in 2016, 2020, and 2024. On the other hand, I started watching the debate hoping to see president Biden could make Trump look even dumber. What I got was a very clearly senile guy that failed to make coherent sentences 10+ times in a 90 minute debate.

      Trump was who he has always been during the debate. Biden was senile during the debate. At this point I’m not asking Biden to drop because I like Trump. That is wrong. I hate Trump. I’m asking Biden to drop because I know he won’t be able to beat Trump. On the other hand, he might have no problem beating medicare.

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        Oh look another super new account posting doom and gloom anti biden stuff. So weird.

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        I love when trolls post bullshit like this, it just fires up the democratic voters. Biden will win with more votes than the last time he beat that 34 time convicted felon, rapist, loser.

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          Anyone who disagrees with you isn’t a troll. Biden looked how he looked, and moderates/independents don’t have the same appetite for copium as you do.

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            Sounds like something a troll would say. Your post history is also matching what a troll/bot is. I agree 100% that just because someone disagrees with me they aren’t necessarily a bot, BUT, there’s a fuckton of bots/trolls out there now to do what they did in 2016.

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          Ok, go ahead with Biden. I decided to take a break from politics. I’ll be sitting out this election.

          Enjoy.

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                I mean, if anything your lending more credibility to Trump if Biden stays in, kinda playing the “both sides” game. Especially saying things like “I know he won’t be about to beat Trump”, basically telling people it’s pointless to vote for Biden.

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            Lol, your account is six days old, nothing but troll posts. Bro, if you’re not a bot, you’re clearly not American, so you can just stfu K? Ty, go slob that putin knob boy.

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    If a democrat fucks up, that’s big news because they’re supposed to have their shit together and act in the best interest of all of us.

    If a republican fucks up, that’s expected. Any articles about that are like ‘water is wet’. It’s not informative because we all know, even the conservatives who vote for them, that they’re in it for themselves and are out to get everyone else.

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    The illegitimate SCOTUS failed to rule on his 14th Amendment disqualification because they don’t care about The Constitution. The fact that he is even a candidate shows how many republicans wipe their asses with the document.

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    People that want to stay free must learn to vote for the most viable candidate, whether they like them or not. Republicans know the left actually value proper behaviour and consistency from their candidates, so the left is vulnerable to this kind of attack. The republicans don’t care what you say about their candidate, they just want to win. But especially they want you to lose.

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      Conservatives need other people to lose, because if other people lose it feels like they are winning.

      It’s why they call they cops on people for no reason. It’s why gender neutral bathrooms are bad. It’s why contraception is bad. It’s why healthcare and other social safety nets are bad.

      If other people don’t lose, they don’t win. Zero sum thinking means they need you to lose.

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      I didnt hear this. Maybe because I was too far away in europe, but it didnt seem, that the US had enough of this pussygrabber

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        He lost the election. Twice, actually. He’s never won the popular vote. He was only the president because of a broken system.

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          It just doesn’t really sound like "people called him to drop out, if almoat 50% of a country vote directly for him

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            Correction: 33% of the eligible voters.

            66% of eligible voters voted in the 2020 election. Almost half of those voted for Trump. That’s 33% of eligible American voters.

            Also, not all Americans are eligible to vote: felons in certain States, non-registered adults, children, etc.

            I may just be being pedantic but it annoys me when I see people claim that half of America supports Trump/fascism when it’s just not true. The number is probably closer to 28% of Americans.

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              Yeah thats right, I didnt know the hard numbers thats on me.

              But you need to really overthink you government system over there, because the guy 30% of you want destroys alot more than the trust in the US system.

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    Because his supporters support him to “fuck the liberals” they don’t care that trailer trash will get fucked harder under trump

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    Because Trump is winning in the polls handily and has robust support from his base.

    Biden is the opposite: he’s losing in the polls, his disapproval numbers are the highest in the history of modern polling, and many of the people that will vote for him will do it only because they have to.

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      Trump supporters have to as well but for different reasons. If they don’t drink the Kool-aid and play along socially they are ostracized. Which doesn’t help anyone.

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    The people calling for Biden to drop out are completely different from the people who want Trump to stay in the race.

    Democrats want Biden to drop out because they don’t believe he can beat Trump.

    Republicans want Trump to stay on the ticket because they’re pretty sure he’ll crush Biden .

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      Democrats want Biden to drop out because they don’t believe he can beat Trump.

      To this point: for those who think that, do they think anyone else realistically could, at this point, other than Biden?

      While I’m not thrilled with his chances, I will say that if he wasn’t to be the nominee, that decision needed to happen in 2021. At this point, I do believe that statistically, he’s got better odds than anyone else, so regardless of his debate or mental state, he’s our guy.

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        To this point: for those who think that, do they think anyone else realistically could, at this point, other than Biden?

        Literally anyone born after 1975.

        Look, 45% of people are going to vote for the name on the D line no matter who it is. 45% of people are going to vote for the name on the R line no matter what. That last 10% is who you want to win over. And like, they’re tired of both of them. But Biden is the dude in office right now, so they’re gonna vote for the other one.

        All Biden has to do is say “after some reflection, you’re right. I cannot serve at my best capacity. I’m going to step aside for the good of party and country,” and then they nominate literally anyone under 50. Hardcore democrats are going to vote for whoever is on that line, and middle America is going to see that and be like “that’s the honorable thing to do. I respect that. And I may not know who this new person is, but they’re not Trump” so democrats still have that tired platform without any of the baggage. They would cruise to retaining the presidency.

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        do they think anyone else realistically could, at this point, other than Biden?

        The answer to that is clearly, “Yes.” The calls for him to bow out are coming from all corners; various mainstream media outlets, donor groups, alternative media, pundits, and even sitting Democratic politicians.

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        Anyone still planning on voting Biden at this point can only justify it on the basis he’s not Trump, and wouldn’t decide not to vote without Biden on the ticket

        A quality he shares with every other American with the exception of Trump himself.

        The democrats only stand to gain votes by swapping him out. 75% of democrats would prefer a different candidate.

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    The only people I see calling for Biden to drop out are the media news companies.

    It’s basically a fake controversy. They benefit massively from stirring the pot so people tune in to “see what’s going to happen”.

    Reality is if Biden were going to drop out, he’d already have done it.

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      Depends on what social circles and social media circles you roll in. I know of a LOT of people who wish he wasn’t the nominee.

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        It takes years to plan a presidential run and the incumbent has a huge advantage. It’s infeasible to change the candidate now and would 100% split an already very polarized party. It’s a fake media controversy and the media companies are the ones causing people to feel that way by editing footage to make Biden look bad, attacking Biden’s stutter or slip up instead of Trump’s lies and gaslighting. The media is controlled by the rich and complicit in treason, but the rich never get their dues and the right is never held accountable.

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          They should run a very popular vice president, and announce him immediately. Biden is obviously not going to step down, but someone competent needs to be on the campaign.

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      This, Biden isn’t going to drop out and most of the people calling for him to resign benefit either directly from him no longer being on the ballot, or indirectly benefit in the chaos and doubt of opportunist in the democratic party jumping on what they perceive as an opportunity to enhance their standing and power within the party and political establishment as a whole.

      If one singular data point (a bad debate performance) is enough to make you or anyone else think a person should immediately step aside, you’re exactly the kind of person these attacks and campaigns are directed at: someone easy to sway and scatter. I don’t particularly like Biden or most of what he’s done in the last 2 years specifically, but I also know that splitting off from him or encouraging a third candidate that will split the vote is just going to hand GOP the reigns for the next 4 years and given how they’ve spent the last 8 stomping on rights and democracy, it’ll probably be another 20 years before they lose power short of another revolution or civil war. So weighing those two scenarios, yeah I’m just going to vote Biden, sleepy or dark brandon, doesn’t matter since he can always resign after the election and let Kamala take up POTUS.

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    Trump controls a cult, that’s why.

    Cult leaders can get their followers to do anything and the followers will forgive the leader for anything, including felonies. They will dismiss any criticism of the leader as lies or made up to hurt the leader politically. No matter how true the criticism might be.

    At the end of the day, it’s very much like the relationship between religious worshippers and their god.

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    If he had any decency or moral, Trump should have stepped down himself.

    Also, kindly remind everyone with a vagina and everyone who cares about someone with one: This year’s presidential election is about abortion access. Roe vs Wade was repealed by extremist MAGA judges appointed by Trump.

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    Firstly, foreign nations interfering with our country wants chaos. Trump is chaos but they will latch onto anything to sew discord and craziness.

    Second the Republicans don’t care they are voting for Trump period or against democrats period there is little to change their mind. Conservatives don’t have to do something to win they have to hold every one and anything back.

    Thirdly, the left is critical thinkers who are trying for better so there is always dissent or people criticizing/arguing the best way to do a thing causing lots of bad will. Doesn’t help we don’t have a left party and have a middle party always trying to court to the right.

    Lastly, there is tons of could been better should have done better. Democrats and DnC sucks. They have a bunch of old fogeys holding onto power and their donors want people who won’t change things to much. Doesn’t help the corpos where use to having zero lights shined on them under Trump and they can do whatever. Where as even if most of it was toothless Biden actually did a little bit and said a few things that upset the corps

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      Ok everybody. New plan. Everybody vote for me. Here’s my platform. Fuck EVERYBODY!!! Equally. No racism. No discrimination. You ALL get a middle finger to the face. In fact, fuck the donkey, fuck the elephant, my party emblem is a big middle finger. The fucking party. Don’t you want to join the fucking party? I know you want to join the fucking party. You know how hitler had the hitler salute? Well we have giving people the finger. Thats our partys gesture. In fact, do two middle fingers! Double up, mother fuckers!

      And my campaign promise? I will fuck up this country at a slower rate than these two old geezers. Actually, first day in office, my first official act as president will be to give both of them the finger.

      My second act will be bacon. Just…just bacon.