• ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    That’s my issue with people saying stuff like “I can immediately tell when a picture is made with AI and I hate how they look”

    Your assesment doesn’t take into account all the false negatives. You have no idea how many pictures have tricked you already. By definition, the picture is badly made if you can immediately tell it’s AI. That’s a bit like seeing the most flamboyantly gay person on the street and thinking all gays look like that and you can always spot them while the closeted friend you’re with flies perfectly under the radar.

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      9 days ago

      Reminds me of all the people who believe commercials and advertising doesn’t work on them. Sure, that’s why billions are spent on it. Because it doesn’t even do anything. Oh it only works on all the other people?

      That’s why it is so hard to get that stuff regulated. People believe it doesn’t work on them.

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        8 days ago

        That’s the real fear of AI. Not that it’s stealing art jobs or whatever. But that all it takes is for a politician or business man to claim something is AI, no matter how corroborated it is and throw the whole investigation for a loop. It’s not a thing now, because no one knows about advanced AI (except for internet bubbles) and it’s still thought that you can easily differentiate images, but imagine even 5 years from, or 10.

    • Johanno@feddit.org
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      9 days ago

      Many unedited or using old Ai images I can detect with one look. A few more I can find by looking for inconsistencies like hands or illogical items.

      However I am sure there will be more AI generated images that may even be a little bit edited afterwards that I can’t detect.

      You will need an ai to detect them. Since at least in images ai is detectable by the way they create the files.

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    9 days ago

    As a visually impaired person on the internet. YES! welcome to our world!

    You’re lucky enough to get an image description that helpfully describes the image.

    That description rarely tells you if it’s AI generated, that’s if the description writer even knows themselves.

    Everyone in the comments saying “look at the hands, that’s AI generated”, and I’m sitting here thinking, I just have to trust the discussion, because that image, just like every other image I’ve ever seen, is hard to fully decipher visually, let alone look for evidence of AI.

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      9 days ago

      I’ve never seen a good answer to this in accessibility guides, would you mind making a recommendation? Is there any preferred alt text for something like:

      • “clarification image with an arrow pointing at object”
      • “Picture of a butt selfie, it’s completely black”
      • “Picture of a table with nothing on it”
      • “example of lens flare shown from camera”
      • “N/A” dangerous

      Sometimes an image is clearly only useful as a visual aid, I feel like “” (exluding it) makes people feel like they are missing the joke. But given it’s an accessibility tool; unneeded details may waste your time.

      • DillyDaily@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        I guess my question would be, why do you need the picture as a visual aid, is the accompanying body text confusing without that visual aid? and if so, by having no alt text, you accept that you will leave VI people confused and only sighted people will have the clarification needed.

        If your including a picture of a table with nothing on it, there’s a reason, so yes, that alt text is perfectly reasonable.

        Personally I wish there was a way to enable two types of alt text on images, for long and quick context.

        Because I understand your concern about unnecessary detail, if I’m in a rush “a table with nothing on it” will do for quicker context, but there are times when it’s appropriate to go much deeper, “a picture of a hard wood rustic coffee table, taken from a high angle, natural sunlight, there are no objects on the table.”

      • 0ops@lemm.ee
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        9 days ago

        They exist but none of them are perfect - they can’t possibly be perfect. It’s a bit of an arms race thing where AI images get more accurate and the detection software get more particular to match, however the economic incentives are on the side of the former.

      • DillyDaily@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        I think so, but I don’t have the mental energy at the moment to sit down and figure out if the AI detection software is accessible either. I know some of my colleagues use programs to check student work for LLM plagerism, but I don’t assign work that can be done via an LLM so I haven’t looked into that, and that’s different from the AI images.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    One thing that happened is that I see AI spam farms less and less on some platforms, others are started to refusing to label theirs as such on art platforms like Pixiv, to have a wider reach (they get immediately blocked and mass reported by normal people).