Everywhere online now, every movie, every home video, has been passed through so many filters that people don’t look human any more. Nobody has any lines in their face, their teeth are florescent white, their eyes are filled in and have no veins. Nobody ever looks tired, or natural. Add to the mix the fact that everyone is getting lip implants to look like a blowfish, and I’m just tired of it. I miss seeing real human beings.

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    I watch a lot of German and Scandinavian (and other European) TV series, their actors still look like people rather than Hollywood Barbie dolls.

    If you’re looking for recommendations Dark was good, as were Deadwind and Dark Spot.

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      Definitely. Outside the US tv or films tend to spend far less effort/budget on effects, and that particularly includes how much “correction” is applied to how the people look. Like people having shiny skin or wrinkles. People look like people.

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    I’m convinced that part of the reason of this over processing is because of streaming. You can compress a movie or show far FAR more when colors are smooth and uniform (I know this from compressing multiple hundreds of movies and TV shows). So now that everyone is “streaming all the things” they have to look for ways to get 4k out the door and to the normal consumer who might only have 100mb internet.

    Edit: not defending it, just sharing my observations as a media enthusiast.

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      they have to look for ways to get 4k out the door and to the normal consumer who might only have 100mb internet

      They do this like YouTube does by scaling the resolution based on your connection speed.

      Though they do compress all resolutions to a fraction of their full bitrate regardless of the service or speed because ISPs are greedy fucks.

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        I’m mean, they are both methods to do the same thing (get smaller sized videos) and it doesn’t have to be one of the other, both can be used. With better compression you can stream higher resolution.

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    When HD first came out people marveled at how you could see folks pores on TV and every minute flaw became visible. I wonder if they’re connected

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      I know pornstars and porn makeup and porn production changed. Many women left the industry in response, directly/indirectly. I read it in a really fascinating article from way back, so it’s kinda fuzzy but that was the gist. Then we got Sasha Grey (⁠。⁠♡⁠‿⁠♡⁠。⁠) I wonder if those are connected.

      Pornstars are younger and more beautiful than they were in the SD era, but look more “normal” and less like brokendown strippers. But things like lip injections and Botox play well on camera, but look fucking awful in person. I feel like I’m honing in on some thesis statement but I’m on the toilet so whatever.

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    I’m more confused to what era of film do you consider ppl looked real. We’ve been touching up actors to look less natural since Shakespeare

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      One example is, look at all the men considered “muscular” they actually had body fat.

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      People still looked human as late as the 90’s, even though they look like extraordinary people. Movies from the 70’s and early 80’s look completely different.

      Edit: I think they didn’t really start with the AI filters until idk, 10 years ago?

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    I agree.

    Sometimes I wonder if it’s the modern, absurd extension of the stage makeup concept, taken to the extreme.

    My ex-wife was a professional dancer, and her stage makeup made her look absolutely insane in person. But under stage lighting, it looked amazing.

    Sometimes I wonder if cosmetic surgery was initially incorporated as something that would bring more popularity or work to an actor, because it would make them look more striking under the absurd, unreal lighting conditions of tv and film.

    And that this has gotten completely carried away. Especially now, since nearly all cinema is greenscreen with scenery digitally added later. Which brings a tremendous amount of lighting incongruity, so we end up needing block-like, exaggerated, un-contoured faces, slathered in 42 layers of stage makeup, to look “proper” under these conditions.

    I don’t know if this is totally out to lunch or not.

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    watch some local theater, although the actors are always done up in stage makeup, it usually is a good down to earth experience

    especially local civic theater, maybe you could volunteer your time with a local theater and then come back and remind yourself why the medium was cherished.

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    Movies and television use makeup and special effects to make the actors look exactly how they are supposed to look in the scene. Young and vigorous, old and tired, strung out, beat up, it’s almost never “real” even when it is supposed to look real.

    Home movies, yeah autofilters are weird. I make home movies for future me and people who care about me. Why would I want them to remember someone who doesn’t look like me? But then I’m not the target audience for video filters.

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      Why would I want them to remember someone who doesn’t look like me?

      Exactly! It’s even a problem with professional videoconferencing programs like Zoom. When you meet someone on Zoom it’s always somewhat of a shock when you meet them in person.

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    Agree, and it does seem like it’s an unpopular opinion. I was just talking with someone the other day that I miss people looking like human beings in movies and TV. I forget what we were watching but it was something from the 80s and we remarked how the entire fantastic cast could not get hired today.

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    Have you seen movies from [insert year here]? Heavy makeup has always been a thing.

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        Right. If I talk about Bollywood, many old actors, that are 50+, are still portraying roles of men in 30s. For example, Akshay Kumar’s skin in almost every new film is smoothed out to give him a younger look, Slaman Khan always has 6-8 pack abs even though he is sightly fatter in reality, etc.