I know it’s .ml where such things happen but ffs! This guy needs to fucking chill 🤦
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This is the comment and of course toothy banned me for 3 days too.
Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦
Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦
Just love the thing where they twist any criticism of the Chinese state into perceived hate for Chinese people, but are so apprehensive when Israel tries to do the same. It’s reprehensible.
I got banned for “orientalism”, whatever that is
Yeah that’s some petty bullshit.
Side note but I really appreciate the mod log feature.
Yeah, me too. It’s a great feature!
If only we could see mod names in the modlog…
You can in a link from your profile tab in Voyager, that’s were I got the dark mode screenshot from 🙂
Oh, that’s cool. But it would be cooler if it was visible in the instances’ modlog aswell
I was also banned from worldnews@lemmy.ml and had comments removed for “Re-enforcing neo-liberal cultural hegemony” and “Believes in objectivity in media lmao”.
My offense? Saying that a report sourced solely from an eye-witness account via Al-Jazeera regarding another massacre of civilians and aid workers in Gaza needed to be corroborated by further evidence before we regard it as hard fact. The irony is I’m very much pro-Palestinan.
According to the mods, however, that apparently means I have to throw all media literacy out of the window and blindly accept any anti-Israel claims without question.
That community is wild, but the discussion over Gaza over there is fucking crazy. Al Jazeera is one of their more credible sources, you can find articles from websites nobody every heard of, small blogs that state IDF soldiers are eating babies. And that is no exaggeration, that was the last thing I read before I left that community…
Exactly what prompted me to comment, since the blog that sourced Al-Jazeera also added certain details that didn’t seem based on anything like actual evidence. Although I admit it wasn’t anything near as extreme as the IDF canibalizing babies.
If we must call out pro-Israel propaganda that makes outrageous, unsubstantiated claims like that, we must do the same for pro-Palestinian propaganda, regardless of how we personally feel about the conflict.
I start almost every comment I make on those instances with
I know this will net me a ban
to play a bit of reverse psychology with the mods there, who don’t touch my comments when the denizens there inevitablely say
Oh yeah you think you’re so smart well we don’t ban opposing opinions unlike some places
And the mods there have their hands tied because banning me would prove their own guys wrong.
It’s worked pretty well so far.
This…… is fucking brilliant.
There’s such a polarization and paranoia that any comment that’s not 100% unwavering support is considered an attack.
Usually I hop in these threads ready to tell people why they deserve to be banned, but dang. There is nothing wrong, ethically or factually, in what you said.
All of the .ml instances are absolutely Russian psyops and you can’t change my mind
(I jest… mostly…)
I’m convinced they’re US psyops to make communists look like idiots. I don’t agree with most of communism, but I can respect people with different views. But the tankies on Lemmy are doing such a hard double dutch rudder on China and Russia they can’t be real. Nobody is that stupid, right? And then I remember how many people are going to vote for trump. Yes, the world really is this stupid all around. Idiots are taking over. The stupid people are breeding. Nationalists that feel it’s their duty to populate the homeland.
Tankies on lemmy are absolutely that stupid. I argue with them all the time. And like OP, I get posts removed and banned often. Across several accounts.
Across several accounts
I choose to believe those tankies are doing the same, and it’s just one tankie you’re arguing with. In fact all tankies arguments on Lemmy are just at argument between you and other said tankie dude on new accounts.
Damn, that dude types FAST! Reads super fast too, although his reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired 😄
ChatGPTankie
You’re right that they aren’t real communists, that’s a mask they wear to spread Kremlin and CCP propaganda.
The idea that they’re run by the US government is ridiculous, they’re full of hateful anti-Western content.
Yeah, its the stark advocating of minority rights/protection on one hand and the intense jerking off of dictators with the other that breaks my brain with Tankies
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Doubt. More than likely just useful idiots.
But they’re not useful at all. Even to the cause. They just make the whole agenda seem mindless and smug.
I have had my comment removed and/or banned from the ml worldnews for “misinformation” for debunking Russian propaganda with sources.
Why do we allow these instances?
You can ask your own instance admin if they’re willing to defederate
Babe, wake up; a new .ml wrongthink euphemism dropped
Oh, I got banished from a whole instance on Mastadon for saying that the Apple Safari team looks at every bug request (and they do):
Little fucking Napoleons will ruin social media, not matter what platform.
You sure it wasn’t because the admins harbor deep resentment toward both Dutch people and guys named James and you just had the bad fortune to exemplify everything they hate?
First off, …HEY! 🧐
Secondly, this isn’t “Goldmember”. Should I arbitrarily hate other countries for shits and giggles? …And who says I’m even Dutch? Maybe I’m like Kirk and I only work in The Netherlands.
Thirdly, they seem to love to hate on Apple there. I had the comeuppance to suggest Jen Simmons and the Safari team actually read the bug submissions (and she’s recently been on numerous videos, podcasts, and in posts on Mastadon saying so) and pushed back on their emoji-malarky.
On some instances, opinions other than the admins need not apply. Hopefully you’re not suggesting as much, even with the digs at the Dutch (who aren’t that bad, but like many, many other countries, aren’t all good either).
this isn’t “Goldmember”. Should I arbitrarily hate other countries for shits and giggles?
Absolutely not, I didn’t mean to imply approval, merely to make fun of bad mods by ascribing bigotry to them 😉
And who says I’m even Dutch? Maybe I’m like Kirk and I only work in The Netherlands
True, but anyone unreasonable enough to be bigoted towards the Dutch probably don’t care about such distinctions 🤷
they seem to love to hate on Apple there
That’s the only thing they’re right about, though. They shouldn’t have banned you for your comment, especially not if it’s true, but Apple DOES suck in nearly every way possible 🤷
On some instances, opinions other than the admins need not apply.
Yeah, I’ve noticed lol
Hopefully you’re not suggesting as much, even with the digs at the Dutch
For the record, I’m a big fan of the Dutch in general 😄
Belgians I can take or leave, though…except on second thought they make some truly wonderful beer so they can stay 😁😉
If I only hate the Dutch that means all people I hate must be Dutch. Simple as.
All cool on many things, except one:
they seem to love to hate on Apple there
That’s the only thing they’re right about, though. They shouldn’t have banned you for your comment, especially not if it’s true, but Apple DOES suck in nearly every way possible 🤷
To which, all I can say is:
Which instance? We should maintain a list of these instances to ensure we don’t lose our data due to idiots like them.
You guys are getting notifications? I just notice the lack of upvotes after a while posting into the void.
Some of the mods will cite the reason for take-down, which is genuinely nice and appreciated and something I forgot even existed after too much time on Reddit.
Interesting. Reddit does prompt you to give a removal message, or did at one time.
.ml tends to slap “rule 1” on everything, which says don’t be a bigot, even if that’s obviously not what the comment was about.
.ml tends to slap “rule 1” on everything, which says don’t be a bigot, even if that’s obviously not what the comment was about.
[emphasis mine]
Sure about that? From what I’ve seen, anything said in disagreement with the predominant opinion over there (and on hexbear, especially on hexbear) is deemed “bigotry”. They don’t appear to be interested in ingratiating anyone to the cause.
… That’s exactly what I said. Or, at least, what I tried to say.
Some of it is actual bigotry, because this is still the internet, but if they just want to shut someone up it’s also “rule 1”.
Okay, gotcha, I was looking at it from their point of view, which is that everything to them is bigotry, not realizing that that’s what you were saying in the first place. The bad, it is mine.
4.1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.Nope, it’s still rule 1 on .ml specifically. Or are you accusing me of bigotry out of the blue? That would be ironic in this context.
I’m simply quoting lemmy.ml’s rule 1 in its entirety. I wrote “4” in error.
which says don’t be a bigot, even if that’s obviously not what the comment was about.
Maybe. But I also see a lot of 4chan-esque double speak and “Free Speech” concern trolling that’s all the fuck over Reddit constantly without ever getting any kind of take down.
Reddit admins have automated so much of their policy that you’re posting in a minefield. You don’t know what arcane caveat you’re going to trip over that’ll get you suspended or banned. But you still find yourself hip deep in the most virulent bigoted, war-mongering, and overtly vile comment threads, because older heads know how to tip toe around the trigger words.
Yeah, both can be true. There’s no way they’re close checking every comment on the instance, looking at the rate of mod actions versus traffic.
Head over to lemmy.ml and scroll to the mod log link at the bottom if you want to see for yourself. A lot of it is just slightly different views on the same socialist stuff. Like the time I said Dengism was just thinly-veiled capitalism, and got banned.
It’s literally one of, if not the, original community, and it’s the one maintained by Lemmy’s developers. It’s probably smaller than .world, but dwarfs my instance.
If you try to post again and get a certain error you’re banned from the community, then you can check that community’s server’s mod log (if it’s public)
It just silently goes through, but nobody else can see it. I only know it happened because of the modlog. Weirdly enough they got me the first time for mild criticism of Israel, which I did not expect to be an issue on there.
Might be silent removal of posts instead of ban
Nope, it was a two-week ban in the .ml mod log, both times.
I should look at the source code a bit, see how bans are supposed to work. It could be a federation issue of some kind if I’m supposed to be notified.
Just block the community/instance and move on
No, even though they don’t like the instance, they are required to post in it for whatever reason and then cry when they predictably get modded.
Makes sense!
It’s funny to me that they don’t admit what they said but want sympathy apparently.
Being a moderator is the only amount of power these people will ever have, and they like it, and will absolutely abuse it.
It’s not just pettiness. They’re pushing manipulation.
Time for an alternate community
What is lemmy.ml and lemmygrad? I’m just a casual using Voyager
Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups that have no interest in dissenting opinion and often spill out into the rest of the fediverse posting anti-western propaganda.
Basically, it’s flat Earth theory but for geopolitics. They believe the exact opposite of what everyone else does so they can have a tight-knit community devoted to being smugly superior to the sheeple.
That’s a good way of putting it
Hexbear falls under this umbrella, right?
Absolutely. Hexbear seems like the most insular and loud one of all. Lemmy.ml can be fairly normal sometimes, actually, just because it’s the OG site and gets a lot of general traffic.
They defederated ages ago.
Does this break the rules of the fediverse?
What rules?
The rules are what each instance operator makes them (outside of breaking laws). It’s up to the other instance operators to defederate from instances that they don’t want direct sharing with for whatever reasons. So if lemmygrad wants to be anti-west, make anti-western posts, comment on current events and insinuate or blame the West for whatever, post trolling comments or fake news, that’s what will happen.
Even breaking laws could fare fine if they’re unimportant enough. A child porn instance would have cops breaking down the server room door, but I’m pretty sure there’s already piracy-friendly instances, and a shoplifting one can’t be far behind.
I don’t believe lemmy.ml’s are pro russian, at least not in that way.
It’s not as bad as Lemmygrad but most news threads about Russia/China/Ukraine are a total shitshow over there.
Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups
“Everyone I Don’t Like is
HitlerAn Evil Foreigner”
They’re something to add to your block list.
How to block? And I’m still a bit confused about instances. How do I know which I joined?
You’re on lemmy.world
You can go to https://lemmy.world/settings click the blocks tab up top, and then add instances to block in there, in the box marked “Block instance”.
I think lemmy.world has already defederated lemmygrad and hexbear, so you should just need to add lemmy.ml
Thank you!
Lemmy is so fucking bad ass. You get to see exactly why they banned you. I think you can type in anyone’s username to see tbe bans.
Feel free to type in my name, I already got a ban.
Sorry I got a little to hot about Russia out producing the USA in artillery shells this far into the Ukraine war. I feel like we spent trillions on defense, there should be production lines just waiting to go for every type of ammunition.
Do this :
Settings >> Blocks >> Block instance : lemmy.mlThere’s a few niche communities there
ideally, when we subscribe to a community but we block the instance, the behavior of the software should be that we would see said community … but in fact, I really don’t know what Lemmy software does in those cases.
I mean, what was your comment, mate?
This one: https://lemmy.world/comment/9266324
How is that McCarthyism?
It isn’t. His reaction of banning me for saying something factual that he doesn’t like might qualify as an extremely mild version, though 😄
Nothing your said was wrong and wtf is McCarthyism even?
McCarthyism was the Second Red Scare philosophy of “everything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport is communism and communism is the most dangerous thing in the history of the world” taught by senator Joe McCarthy and other closet fascists.
It was used as an excuse to hunt down and blacklist anyone they didn’t like, whether they were left wing, Jewish, worked in Hollywood or, sweet merciful Anglo Saxon God more than one of the above.
The irony of him invoking that while unfairly punishing me for not following the local groupthink isn’t lost on me, though I’m sure it is on him 😄
It’s what tankies use to rile fear of political opposition in their groups.
The ironic part is that is exactly how McCarthyism was used back in the cold war.
Their ideals are as outdated as their ability to reason.
