Do you know any Lemmy instances not federated with other ones, living by themselves? Do you know any interesting or creative use case for a not federated instance?
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Hexbear was the only instance with a sizable user base that used to do this, but these days they federate too
Do you know why they were not federated and then changed to federation?
I believe they forked from Lemmy before federation existed close to 4 years ago, added things like custom emojis and then only re-merged after federation was implemented then turned it on.
Ah, that explains why their custom emojis don’t render correctly anywhere else. I wish that piece of code would get merged into the main version so it’d be less annoying.
I wish they would merge in the pronoun support too, one of the better hexbear features imo.
I’m not a fan of forced pronoun badges as an Agender person. Allowing people to have pronoun badges is good but only if it is optional. When it isn’t it creates a dilemma where a person has to choose between outing themself, or lying if they don’t want to out themselves.
As it is though, their implementation of it simply uses (or rather commandeers) the display-name feature Lemmy has, so in a way we already do have an optional implementation of it for people who want it. It’s just not mandated. The way they did it was to replace display names with Pronoun tags and have them be mandatory.
The display names option does limit your actual name length combined with pronouns, hexbear it’s a separate field. I do appreciate the arguments against having it mandatory/integrated into the main lemmy. Here’s the github post about it, the lemmy.ml admins agree with your line.
That said, on hexbear I see plenty of people keep none/use name and they’ve also got specifically agender ones like null/void, undecided, any.
Yeah the big issue with Hexbear’s way of doing it is that it’s kind of forced and can cause discomfort to people who don’t want to out themselves yet. I wasn’t aware they have undecided or any as options, I’ve never tried to sign up there and have little desire to considering among other things how isolated it is. Even so I don’t think their way of doing it is very good since it heavily limits the options people can use, and locks people out of using display names, which are extremely useful. I think a better solution would just be to increase the length of usernames and display names to accommodate users who might want to use pronouns.
Also just want to point out, it does annoy me a bit when people say Agender pronouns, since Agender people don’t have a universal set of pronouns. We all have very widely varied preferences and experiences among us. I don’t blame you for that by the way, it’s a common misconception about Agender and Nonbinary people.
They were running a self maintained fork of lemmy that wasn’t compatible, though I don’t know if that was the original reason
Dunno why it seems everyone is misunderstanding your post. It’s a simple question. Why all the grief? I’d be interested to know of Lemmy instances that arent federated and where to find them as well.
Yeah, waaaay back in the day there was a couple private message boards I was in for stuff like sports.
Nowadays there’s a lot better options for organization, but via one of the big companies which requires accounts and things to happen on their server.
A closed Lemmy server at a discreet address has a lot of advantages compared to a Discord group for example.
I’d never thought of it, but it could be a thing.
Thanks for your comment, I was thinking that I have done something wrong by asking this.
I didn’t think your question is as absurd as everyone is acting like it is. It’s absolutely a silly thing to do, but I think a lot of the arguments against doing so would also apply to Mastodon, and wasn’t it revealed that that Trump’s garbage dump was running defedded Masto?
If you find one, I assume there will be many more terrible choices beyond just using Lemmy, and it’s not somewhere you’ll want to be.
Why is it a silly thing to do? A non-federating lemmy instance is just another content aggregator site like Reddit.
In many ways, it’s a better experience than federated Lemmy. It’s just harder to recruit members.
Well now hang on. What if you were in 8th grade, and started your own Lemmy instance, with no outside sources, and then invite all your classmates? And then all 30 of you have a blog and you all post individual blog posts.
Seems like a very specialized use of it, and I’m not sure if teens today would be interested in that…but you COULD.
I haven’t checked around since the reddit API fiasco, but there were unfederated Lemmy instances. As Diva mentions in more detail, Hexbear used to be unfederated and it was the largest of all instances. Even without federation, it’s a viable, actively developed content aggregator. So I wouldn’t call it silly, it’s a valid choice.
and wasn’t it revealed that that Trump’s garbage dump was running defedded Masto?
Gab is also a Mastodon fork, which was originally defederated before being blocked from most instances and bullied by the remaining freeze peach instances, so they mechanically removed the federation code.
I’ve also heard some special interest communities on Mastodon intentionally defederate from the broader network for privacy reasons.
Federation didn’t create lemmy.
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there are already dozens of good stand alone forum products. there would be no need to use a purposefully federating platform where half the code is put to federation. silly.
That is the reason I asked if there is a reason that maybe I’m not aware.
no. its the wrong tool for that job.
do you mean basically any forum not based on federation? like 99% of other communities?
Yes, but using Lemmy and not federated.
There are some but they are filled with zoos and pedos
Oof.
I couldn’t fully figure out how to setup my instance so technically I am fully isolated on there lmao
Reddit
I’m not sure how you’d find them, bc they won’t be listed on the join lemmy page
Truth Social.
I thought that was mastadon, not lemmy.
Aren’t they basically different interfaces for the same thing?
No. Mastadon is a microblog/twitter platform. While lemmy is a link aggregator/reddit.
What is patriots.win running?
No clue, i had to tap out while looking at it. That was a hot mess, and i feel dumber for having read anything there.
I’m not sure I get it either. Is it just a url to a specific Scored community or somehow its own instance?
It doesn’t mention activity pub or federation. I think it’s just another reddit clone. SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world (does that ping work?)
It appeared to be a Reddit type site, but without communities. Just all of the drivel in one feed with only upvotes.
doesn’t look like either mastodon or lemmy, although its structure is similar to lemmy; from the sidebar it appears they are running something called “scored” which I don’t know anything about
they are different server platforms using the same protocol for different purposes. mastodon == federating twitter, ie ‘old man shouts into the cloud’. lemmy == federating reddit, ie threaded discussions.
there are so many perfectly good non-federating server products as to make this question moot. lemmy is the wrong platform for a stand-alone environment.
What if you’re using it as a honeypot and federating a copy of the data?
are there jerks in the fediverse? yep. many bad actors.
many server ops will defed known nonreciprocal servers. ‘scrapers’
Well now hang on. Not all jerks on the fediverse are bad actors. I’m a jerk, but I’m a GREAT actor!
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Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him,Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times, and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is!
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…what? I SAID I was a jerk!
No, they can sort of interact with each other, but the data structure and the functions of the sites are different. Mastodon is Microblogging like Twitter, and Lemmy is a Link-aggregator/Forum type platform.
Those using lemmybb maybe
It’s neat, but is anyone a really using it?
It’s been broken for a while, the devs haven’t really worked on it. It may be fixed in the future but it’s likely it won’t ever be touched again.
