Farscape is a very soft sci-fi, but it has a mostly consistent world that mostly follows its internal logic. It has muppet aliens and the supernatural along side more traditional TV space tropes, but the narrative makes sense as presented, and it doesn’t do much to hurt your suspension of disbelief.
Doctor Who is the opposite of consistent. It makes shit up as it goes along and isn’t even consistent in the kind of bullshit it’s throwing at you. It can be tropey nonsense, comedy overriding reality, fairy tale reasoning that breaks down when you try to think about it to much, or whatever other idiocy it feels like being today. Instead of building a world that you can understand, it basically just says “don’t worry about it, assume we already did the boring set up stuff, and just run with the fact that plastic can be alive and chasing after people because that’s what we’re doing this week.”
And that there are apparently several alien species concurrently living underneath London at any given time.
Well they all live at different depths and do occasionally fight/ally when they’re at the same depth…
Well that be the best argument I have ever heard for why I should chuck out my preconceived notions and join my life partner in LOving Doctor Who.
I guess the question is “What Who have you watched?”
For my money, peak Who will always be Tom Baker. Yes, it’s absurd, he knows it’s absurd and leans into it.
Baker FTW. He understood the assignment: Gandalf-Bugs-Mr-Bean, saving the universe with absolute pacifism and a crumpled bag of jelly babies.
The remake in the new format completely destroyed the character archetype, and turned him into a forced-whimsy action hero with a side of self-pity.
Found the Doctor Who nerd. pounce on him my lovelies.
Make mine Pertwee. The Barry Letts era is the most consistently good the show ever was, or likely ever will be. There were some individual Tom Baker stories that were better under Hinchcliffe and Williams, and some that were much worse *coughs* JNT *coughs* . Perhaps one of the hazards of Tom Baker’s long tenure. 😆
You’re not wrong. You just don’t have the absurdly strong nostalgia goggles that are required.
(fwiw: I don’t get it either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
New Who tends to run on Bugs Bunny logic but also wants you to take it seriously. Try some old Doctor Who if you can handle very bad effects. Early Tom Baker or the Jon Pertwee stuff at least tries to make sense.
Also they often have the doctor have to work at the problem and have a plausible solution. Now it’s just I pushed the radiation in my shoe.
Back then the sonic screwdriver was just a high tech swiss army knife. The doctor would use it to open panels and rewire things. These days it’s a do anything magic wand.
Same for me but with Dune/Star Trek vs Star Wars. I don’t get Star Wars and refuse to accept that lightsabers are a real weapon.
I mean, the basic premise of a lightsaber is pretty simple. You have some incredibly powerful power source, a blade made out of super hot plasma, and a magnetic containment bottle in the shape of a sword.
The reason they bounce off each other is the magnetic containment fields bashing into each other.
Different target audience?
I do not think so.
I grew up watching New Who. I never got into Classic Who. Part of it is just that you love the characters and eventually learn to accept that the universe is big and wacky shit happens. The Doctor usually has an idea of whats going on, and that’s all you really need. Imo the audience is like an auxiliary companion; we’re along for the ride and learning wtf is going on just like whoever’s with the Doctor. Our minds can’t always comprehend what’s going on, but thats okay. We’ll figure out a way through and sometimes even save the day ourselves. And at the end of it all we might be a little closer to the Doctor than a normal person, and we can use that to save the world when the Doctor is off saving another one.
ETA: Also the Doctor is a wonderful character. I love everything except the Chibnall era because no one there understood the Doctor. I really really wish we had someone else as the first female doctor because I think it could’ve been great but instead we got someone who gave more ammunition to the sexists. The Doctor’s character has so much depth and mystery and demonstrates an ideal of humanity in the same way Star Trek does. I think one of the best examples of this is in the 50th anniversary special with the Doctor’s monologue at the end with the two boxes. I’m paraphrasing, but, “at the end of the day all wars end with what people should’ve done from the beginning: talk. If people just sat down and talked it out all could be resolved without a single drop of blood. The war you fight will only invite someone to fight another war against you.” I’m horribly butchering it but it’s a really beautiful speech. It’s not a perfect response to all injustice but nothing ever will be. Eventually we just have to stop and move forward if we ever want to see a brighter future.
I think Jodie Whittaker could have been a good doctor but like Peter Davison she was a doctor with a bad show runner and bad writers.
I’m unsure personally, but a lot of the blame definitely falls at the feet of Chibnall. I hope that when i watch the newer stuff I’ll be more impressed.
Opinions on Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy?
Sounds like maybe what you don’t like is British humour.
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You like what you like, idk why you have to be wrong about it. If you want insight into yourself on why you like this and not that, then therapy is where to go.
And I shall die there with you, friend. It all comes down to the quality of the writing.
As long as you remember that crackers don’t matter.
Nah, Dr. Who is terrible writing. Absolute garbage
Farscape was so underrated. I love that show.
David Tenet.
Casanova: Who: Good Omens is a series.
The others are OK but Tenet is a must.
It’s about an eldritch being looking for love through all of human history and finding it in his angel buddy.
I fucking love Tenet in Food Omens.
He should do a travel show called Food Omens.
Hahaha I totally missed that typo. It is funny so I’m keeping it.
I thought you were poking fun since it’s David Tennant, not Tenet… I feel like I’ve been whooshed now.
It sorta depends on the genre. It was initially supposed to be sorta a science education show but they abandoned that quick.
It was supposed to be a history education show. Travel through time and learn about history. They dropped that by story 2 where they go to an alien planet and meet the Daleks.
see I was told the whole daleks could only move on metal plates as it supposedly explaining science and how electricity needs conductors.
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