I’ve seen around 3 occasions of that this week, altho I have never seen anything like it before.

if I remember correctly they were:

  • smack talking a mod (FlyingSquid) for saying not to report the same comment twice, when they were different comments, and the report was spam
  • someone comparing .world with .ml in politics (as in there was a comment saying "this post will be overrun with .ml people, and then a comment going “but you are from .world”) (Maybe Im part of the problem? I have been called out for being a fascist because I questioned the “puching nazis” theme)
  • one more which I can’t remember.

Anyways, what is all that about? Are people really starting to hate on 50% of the lemmy population because of their instance?

  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
    100·
    24 days ago

    .world is the biggest instance and therefore a prime choice for trolls to create accounts. Most of the trash posts I’ve seen lately are from brand new users on lemmy.world

    I am equally suspicious of brand new lemmy.world users as I am of veterans of lemmy.ml. Older accounts on .world are usually pretty normal.

  • Fleur_@lemm.eeEnglish
    47·
    23 days ago

    Imo the best mods/admins are the ones I don’t have to interact with and oh boy did I interact with the admins of .world

  • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    46·
    24 days ago

    Because the pedantic shit that the socialist get away with in .ml, Hexbear, and Lemmygrad doesn’t fly here. And because of this, they accuse .World of bias while completely ignoring the fact that their own instances ban people for simply being “liberal.”

    • Fleur_@lemm.eeEnglish
      10·
      23 days ago

      I got into an argument with some hexbear users on their instance. Curiously despite all my comments going against the hexbear consensus the only ones that got deleted were the ones that called out another user for using a pay to see documentary. I ironically said something along the lines of “nothing says socialism like paying for propaganda” and then had that comment quickly deleted. My crackpot unproven theory is that the moderators of that instance are deliberately trying to sell information (propaganda) to impressionable leftists to make a quick buck.

    • fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee
      5·
      23 days ago

      Yes, exactly, except the .ml and Hexbear communities aren’t really socialist, it’s just a facade for their authoritarian propaganda.

      Sure, there are some actual communists/socialists there, but they’re the minority.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
    43·
    24 days ago

    A lot of this boils down to consequences of lemmy.world being the largest instance: typical Reddit users beeline for it, trolls go there, larger comms so more frequent issues with moderation, people who fail to distinguish between “we shouldn’t concentrate our activity into the largest instance” and “largest instance bad! EDIT WOW THANKS FOR LE GOLD TO LE KNEE KIND STRANGER!”, so goes on.

    • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      23 days ago

      Back when reddit* was just starting to fall to shit, I had already been dipping my toes in the mastodon water, and while I really liked the instance I was on it did not have enough people on it to properly surface good collections of off node traffic.

      Knowing that Mastodon had the problem, I didn’t dick around with smaller nodes. To be honest it’s still a fight if you’re on a node with only a handful of people, you have to do something to mitigate the lack of community traffic in the face of lacking discoverability.

    • Lux18@lemmy.world
      4·
      22 days ago

      EDIT WOW THANKS FOR LE GOLD TO LE KNEE KIND STRANGER!

      Giving me fucking flashbacks

  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
    23·
    24 days ago

    I have nothing against the wolders but the admins of that instance raise more than a few eyebrows. Particularly when they rolled back specific anti hate speech policies in favor of vague common sense ones to stay ahead of the anti-woke crowd.

    Kind of feels like they have been trying to take over Lemmy. Which… Could be a lot worse but still rubs me the wrong way.

  • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    21·
    24 days ago

    I don’t hate LW, I even regularly post to a few LW communities. The sysadmins do a good job. There are a few debatable moderation decisions, but those are usually documented on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    The main issues I have with it is

    • centralization of communities coupled with the current federation implementation creating 7-days delay for instance like aussie.zone (see !fedimemes@feddit.uk for a meme and discussion on that topic)
    • their communities being the default means they can take controversial decisions and impact a topic for everyone until an alternative community emerges. See all the debates with the Media Bias Fact Checker bot, which in the end got removed from !world@lemmy.world (!globalnews@lemmy.zip for an alternative) but apparently it still on !politics@lemmy.world
    • another consequence of centralization is impact of their being unavailable. People here might remember August 2023 when LW was under consistent DDoS attack, it was barely usable. This prevented a third of Lemmy total users to use Lemmy. Should they face a similar issue in the future, most of the Lemmy communities would be unusable.

    Another point I haven’t seen mentioned is that they are still federated with Threads: https://fedipact.veganism.social/

    They are the last large instance which still is.

  • Xylight@lemdro.idEnglish
    19·
    23 days ago

    I’d say the biggest criticism is that it’s the largest instance, and is also a “general purpose” instance, which sort of takes away from the main goal of the fediverse. When 90% of content comes from one instance, it opposes the goal of decentralization.

    I chose lemdro.id because it’s nice and fast, the admins are very good, and its main topic is around technology/software which I like

    • pixelscript@lemm.eeEnglish
      6·
      23 days ago

      I don’t think the existence of large instances is in itself strictly antithetical to decentralization. The network effect makes them inevitable.

      The power in the fediverse is everyone has a standard toolset to interact with the entire fediverse. Most people won’t, and that’s okay. The important thing is that, should larger communities become too oppresive as they gentrify, replacing them is a cheap decision, as you and everyone like-minded with you can squad up and leave at any time and lose nothing as the standard tooling of the platform facilitates that migration. You have mobility in the fediverse, and that permits choice to those who seek it.

      This will stop being true once the larger instances start augmenting their experiences with proprietary nonsense. Features that only work there, that you can invest into and become dependant on, that you’d have to give up if you leave.

      The day that happens will be the day that chunk of the Fediverse dies. Or, well, it won’t die, it will probably flourish and do very well. But it won’t be the Fediverse anymore. It will just be another knee-high-fence-gated community, that happens to run on Fediverse tech.

  • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    11·
    24 days ago

    Also, just thinking about it, but OP, you are posting this on a LW community, while people really disliking LW probably blocked the instance. You could maybe crosspost to !asklemmy@lemmy.ml to get additional answers

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    22 days ago

    someone comparing .world with .ml in politics

    Everyone to the left of me is a psychotic delusion America-hating Tankie.

    I’m a rational, centrist clear-eyed moderate making fact-based decisions using my extensive expertise on the subject matter.

    Everyone to the right of me is a Russian bot or a troll.

  • nifty@lemmy.world
    10·
    22 days ago

    I don’t find any issues on .world. Yeah some people say dumb stuff, but that’s just the world isn’t it? I am sure there are others who think the same of me. It’s whatever, some people getting mad at .world are just mad they’re not in an echo chamber.

    But other people complaining about trolls are right, there’s just no place for that. Report, block and move on. It’s not your job to educate anyone.

  • njordomir@lemmy.world
    10·
    23 days ago

    I want you all to know that I’m happy you’re here, cis het white male frat boy from old wealth with an ivy league education or a neorospicy gay trans Jewish anarcho-communist and everything else out there.

    While I won’t judge you on your instance, I will judge you on your ability to be a good neighbor. I’m always glad to see humility, kindness, empathy, comradery, etc. on display.

    • syreus@lemmy.world
      8·
      23 days ago

      “We must therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate intolerance”

      Karl Popper

  • eatthecake@lemmy.world
    9·
    24 days ago

    The instance structure conveniently groups people together and labels them. Stereotyping, bias and tribalism are the natural result.

  • YeetPics@mander.xyz
    8·
    22 days ago

    “people” aren’t.

    Remember two days ago when we learned Russia was spending several billions to sway foreign elections?

    Peperidge farm remembers.

  • EnderMB@lemmy.world
    8·
    22 days ago

    Easy, because it’s often home to some extreme and often bizarre opinions. It often makes Reddit seem civil and intellectual.

    In the last month alone, I’ve seen:

    • Downvotes for suggesting that if you were to ask Big Tech to split, they’ll probably just split in a way that keeps them aligned, while cutting unprofitable chunks out.
    • Downvotes for suggesting that TikTok shouldn’t be banned for being “stupid”, given that most social media is stupid, and people often said that about the shit that many of us grew up with.
    • Just endless nonsense about how you cannot print with Windows, like at all, while Linux (never stating a distro) “just works”. It’s clear that so many people in the tech community on lemmy.world haven’t used Windows for years.
    • Crap about LLM’s and how providers like OpenAI are “dumb”, despite the fact that many use grounding and expert systems to guide towards correctness (literally what I work on in my job).
    • Being so US-centric AND contrarian that you regularly see posts around how “Europe is so much better for this”, when Europe is a fucking continent with separate countries and their own laws/customs.
    • Posts about how we can get “normies” to use Lemmy

    None of the above would happen on Reddit. They’re all signs of communities that are detached from reality, so much so that on Mastodon there are several posts from people that have called Lemmy (basically meaning the “main” instance) out as being toxic and unfriendly compared to other fediverse offerings.

    • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
      17·
      22 days ago

      I disagree with your statement about not seeing this type of behaviour on Reddit and it appearing civil and intellectual comparison.

      • EnderMB@lemmy.world
        2·
        22 days ago

        I used Reddit for around 15 years, and had never seen the above. Sure, it was toxic in other ways, but Lemmy in 2024 is basically 2004 Slashdot - just replace Bush with Trump, and it’s basically the same shit about how Microsoft is evil, anyone that doesn’t use Linux is a moron, and arguing about Star Trek.