‘Choose’ rhymes with ‘lose’? I mean c’mon, someone did that shit on purpose 👀

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      Don’t get me started on ough and ead.

      The lead soldier kneaded dough in the bough brush while they read the book that they previously read while taking a furlough in the rough.

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        I don’t know that they sound that different, but I definitely “pronounce” them differently in that my tongue is in a different party of my mouth for both of them. When I say clothes, my tongue is near touching my front teeth, where as close is more just below that ridge behind my teeth, so farther back.

        I’m from the center of the U.S. for reference.

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        They aren’t universally, just in certain dialects. I pronounce the “th” just like with “clothing.”

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        No one? They aren’t pronounced the same in any accent that I’m aware of.

        Edit: I’m dumb. I was reading that as the “nearby” close and not the "shut " close.

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          You’re probably thinking of the pronunciation of close as in ‘close to you’

          I was thinking of the pronunciation of close as in ‘close the door’

          Which is pronounced the same as clothes.

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            Those still aren’t pronounced the same. The th in clothes isn’t silent.

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              I’m not sure where you’re from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced any different than ‘close’.

              Now if it’s said as ‘clothing’, the th is indeed pronounced. But not for ‘clothes’. And I’ve worked at a clothing store before.

              You might be thinking of the word ‘cloths’, which indeed does pronounce the th.

              English is weird like that.

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                I’m not sure where you’re from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced any different than ‘close’.

                I’m not sure where you’re from, the th in is always pronounced in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced the same as ‘close’

                I will say that people got called out for pronouncing it the same as the spice ‘cloves’.

                FWIW My area = rural southern UK.

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                  I’m in the US and I pronounce it, I think a lot of people do? Maybe I just know a lot of snobs and “regular” Americans mush the word together but I don’t think so

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                  You seem like the sort of person that would pronounce the word often with a hard T, yet still pronounce the letter A as if it was an O.

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    They never did. Their spelling, meaning, and pronunciation are the same as they have always been.

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    I mean yeah ‘loose’ could probably be pronounced like ‘choose’ and it would still make sense, but it absolutely wouldnt make sense for ‘lose’ to be pronounced like ‘moose’ or ‘goose’. Im not sure what you even mean when you say they switched meanings either because thats just false.

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    english is a very silly language that’s evolved so you can do almost anything with it

    it’s a risky strat but it seems to have worked

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    May as well combine words with the same pronunciation into one word and call it Simplified English (/s)

    Honestly tho, this is one of the features of Simplified Chinese, which created the infamous “fuck vegetables” (干菜类).

    It’s meant to say “dried vegetables” (乾菜類 in TC), but 乾→干. Meanwhile, there exists 幹→干 as well, which means “fuck”.

    fuck vegetables

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    they are very different in my mind. perhaps because i first came across them in their respective contexts through reading.

    even when speaking, to me, lose rhymes with booze and loose rhymes with goose.

    this has never been a problem for me, personally.

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    Wait, if they swapped meanings and then swapped spellings then doesn’t that mean they’re the same as before?

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    Loose rhymes with noose. I can’t think of a word that’s spelled and pronounced like lose so you have me there.

    choose lose cruise booze

    all rhyme lol

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        Those three sound completely different to me, as far as how I’ve been pronouncing them goes. “Their” doesn’t have the extra lagging e sound (as in the e in err) in “there” where I curl my tongue upward at the end. “They’re” preserves the ey sound in “they”, just concatenated with an r as in err sound.

        When I say, “They’re there,” people can make out what I’m saying, though as more people seem to tell me that these are just homophones, maybe they’ve just been relying on context.

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    Read rhymes with lead, and read rhymes with lead, but lead doesn’t rhyme with read and lead doesn’t rhyme with read.

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    English is idiosyncratic as hell. Didn’t someone famous call it “not a language but 3 languages in an overcoat.”

    Adding to this specific instance is that even native speakers spell things wrong. They loose their keys, etc.