For some reason I’ve just never liked Spider-Man. He comes off as a whiney, ignorant child that never seems to grow up or mature despite everything he goes through. I love a good coming of age story, but he just never seems to become an adult.

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    Tony Stark - oligarchic propagandist for normalizing the myth of exceptionalism

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    The Flash.

    Not because I don’t like the character but because he honestly should be one of the strongest characters in DC but they constantly nerf him in the writing because they realized just like superman he could literally just show up and fix everything before anyone else even realized there was a problem

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    All of them. Can’t stand the superhero-dominated media market.

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      I agree, they are just not for me either… It just feels the cinema industry focusing on what is safe to sell well enough.

      Maybe the original material (comics) is way better than what I could see on TV growing in the 90s , not sure.

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        Yeah it’s just such a simple and easy topic. Studios funnel all their money and focus into a genre that requires no creativity.

        After Iron Man 2008, sure it was neat for a few years to see a “connected universe” but it’s a bit of a joke now…

        That’s what makes me the most excited for auteurs like Francis Ford Coppola or Lynch or Aronofsky or Tarkovsky - I watch movies to be immersed and feel something, and blam-blam-boom-booms have just never done it for me.

        I prefer film-as-art over film-as-entertainment I guess?

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          The word is pretentious. Both types are great, but ivory tower types who name drop basic Artisic™ directors like they just took their first film class I find to be more irritating than people who just want to have fun.

          Be more Ebert, less RT Meter.

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            Wow, you must have lots of friends and be fun at parties, dick 😂🤣😂

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              Pretty much yeah! Imagine that, someone who thinks you’re a try-hard poser actually has a rich life and is usually the host of many parties filled with authentic people who would gladly mock, openly, the thoroughly asinine dog shit you said above. Maybe nicer though.

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      Fuck, you are so cool. Edgy and cool. Too cool to like a single super hero which are diverse and many! Finger guns Please, dunk my nerd face in the trashcan.

      Cool, hip people hate superheroes and downvote me for saying you’re a contrary, close minded, jerk off.

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    Batman. He’s a billionaire playboy living in a city full of poverty. He may not kill but he has no problem crippling someone for life. And the fact he apparently learns nothing about the joker over the decades has resulted in so so many people dying to the joker’s schemes.

    And the reality is that he’s still that same child in that alley but in an adult’s body. He takes on different child robins because he never grew past that. He has trauma that was never treated and one of the main symptoms of trauma is being stuck in the time period that the trauma happened. He doesn’t really have a personality beyond the trauma.

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    Cyclops. What a toolbox.

    And in the X-Men ‘97 reboot, WOW! have they ramped up the toolbox factor.

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    I really can’t stand Damian Wayne I just find him annoying and bratty.

    If anyone has any good story recommendations with him I would like to hear about it.

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      At first I thought you said Damon Wayans, and for the first time in ever, I thought about the movie Blankman.

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      I recommend Batman and Robin by Tomasi & Gleason. What’s great about Damian being annoying and bratty is that it allows some character growth. Unfortunately, whenever a new writer takes over, it results in him regressing back to his previous characterization.

      I also recommend Batman and Robi n with Dick Grayson as Batman. Its has an unique take on Dynamic Duo with a serious Robin and Light-hearted Batman.

      If you like those you can check out Robin Solo run and supersons as well.

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        I check those out, another person also recommend supersons, and I will look into it it sounds like something I would like.

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    Hulk. He’s an angry green guy with muscles, created with gamma radiation, nothing special. After a while, he feels less like a super hero and more like a Super Smash Bros fighter.

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    Modern Batman and Modern Superman.

    I won’t go on my 2 hour rant off everything wrong. But a short version is the writing for them is lazy and undeveloped. Both of them represent the most uninteresting form of a power fantasy. The modern Batman of ‘having a plan for everything’ and being this overburden angsty character is just awful. If Batman was a d&d character, he has loaded dice and is throwing that 20s on intimidation. And for Superman he’s just not interesting, because with the amount of power he’s been given and the amount of abilities he has the fact that lex luthor is somehow a villain of his is laughable.

    Batman used to be the world’s greatest detective. And for me the last time I saw Batman be Batman was the '90s animated series. And frankly the most recent movie The Batman also did a very good job I thought in that regard.

    Superman used to have limits. He was fast but not infinite speed fast. He was strong but not infinite strength.

    In both cases it feels like the people who write for these characters use one simple rule… This my favorite character so he win. Neither character feels like their struggles are earned, because the writing is forced. Like it used to be if Superman needed to save somebody you weren’t 100% sure he’d be able to get there in time, stop the bad guy save the people! Modern Superman is like, a being a hundred light years away, tripped and their falling! They need your help before they get a boo-boo and I have no doubt Superman would get there somehow and then save a hundred worlds along the way. (An over-exaggeration I know but I want to get the point across at how lazy I feel the writing is). Or the fact that anybody fears Batman when most of his villains barely fear him. You have members like Green lantern, Martian manhunter, Superman, and Wonder woman who act like in any way Batman is a threat to them.

    I’ll stop ranting cuz I can honestly go on. But I will say with the massive decline for me personally with these two, I’ve been far more receptive of some of the other DC characters that I used to overlook when I was younger. I can’t believe I 100% slept on the flash like that dude is straight boss. Or plastic man! So at least some good came of it.