Can i ask everyone to please watch the movie M * A * S * H in honour of Donald Sutherland passing… And share then share your experience here.
Im very curious how it will be received, i wont be surprised by some problematic aspects, but it was an impactful movie (and tv show)
I think they dealt with subject matter that might be important in this current era
I am also looking to watch the tv show at some point. Which onr should I watch first, the tv show or the movie?
If you can then watch it without the laugh track first.
I’m not that knowledgeable on either, but if I remember rightly you also have the choice of watching the TV Show as it was broadcast in the USA or as it was broadcast in the UK (and maybe elsewhere) - the main difference being that the USA one has a laugh track added.
I may have some of the details wrong, but just FYI.
I think it’s a personal choice, or at least i didn’t have any specific reason not to watch the movie first. They are a fair bit different but if you watch the series first that’s a lot of Alan alda to unsee if you watch the movie afterwards so i think it’s better for your movie experience if watch it before the series, and it was released first so there’s that
I remember really enjoying How I Met Your Mother when it was airing. I tried for a rewatch recently and only made it a few episodes in because I was so disinterested. It felt empty, and the humor wasn’t hitting. I think it’s a combination of I’ve changed (I’ve aged out of the “20-something singles fool around in a fantasy version of NYC” demographic) and TV has evolved (good comedy shows are no longer just goofy hijink situations and setups for one-liners).
So instead I rewatched Archer season one (same era as HIMYM) and fortunately that one still slaps.
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Oh man. So many and so much. Most of the “comedy” from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s is unwatchable. Older movies are sometimes straight up disgusting. I think it’s a sign for how we grow as a society to be more aware of the sexism, racism and other forms of disrespect that has been sold as comedy or just as “normal”. I consume much more consciously and through a more meta lense. For reference: I’m turning 40 this year
I tried to rewatch John Tucker Must Die as something to have on in the background the other night, and wooow did that not hold up. I only made it to where they give him estrogen (which is insane and terrible) and he starts acting like a stereotypical “girl on her period” before I bailed. So many of the movies targeted at teenagers and young adults in that era are so bad. They went all in on punching down, and the amount of rape and sexual assault is wild in retrospect.
I like to watch those old shows because they are reminders that we really have made significant progress in my lifetime.
Primary source materials, really. A great window into the past.
The opening to Full Metal Jacket hasn’t, uh, hasn’t aged well.
CBS laugh tracks are like nails on a blackboard to me now.
superhero movies. when the first Tobey Maguire Spiderman premiered, it was magical. i had wished for this exact thing for years.
now i can’t stand any of them. they’re cringe af, like watching a bunch of toddlers play pretend grown up.
I quit smoking pot and no longer enjoy the Spin Doctors. Well, that’s half true. I heard them straight one day and decided if that’s the kind of thing I like when I’m high, I should quit.
I only know that one song of them. I really like that. I won’t buy you rockets though.
Well said, Little Miss. You can’t be wrong.
Comedy in general. Others have given specific examples of things that are discriminatory, including racism and sexism.
On the one hand, it’s sad to realize that your old favorite movie is no longer that, but when you realize why I think it’s actually uplifting. You can feel that you’ve learned something, you’ve improved as a human being, that you care more about society.
And because there are many genres other than comedy, it’s not like you lost all of your favorite movies.
I can no longer make it through a show with a laugh track. They just spoil the flow.
While they don’t always ruin the thing, so many old shows, movies, and music have a ton of blatant racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. sprinkled in that makes it less enjoyable. South Park’s Chef Aid album has a song that is a combo of Crystal Method, Ozzy, DMX, and I think Wu Tang called Nowhere to Run. It is pretty awesome, except for DMX inserting a few homophobic lines. That asshole ruined a great song!
Overall I notice mean jokes and cruel humor, which is still around to some extent but far less often without the person making the joke clearly an asshole. Stuff like Mel Brooks that included some humor about groups that were frequently mocked, but in a way that is mostly self aware parody, aged pretty well.
Mel Brooks
aged pretty well
Some stuff, yeah, but then you have Blazing Saddles. Woof.
Blazing Saddles is the epitome of Mel Brooks humor that has aged well. It’s an amazing satire of racism that is still on point for today (unfortunately).
Huh, I had the opposite reaction. I see your point about satirizing racism, but I couldn’t get past the gratuitous n-bombs every other line.
Satirizing requires doing the thing being satirized, in this case racists being racist.
Tell me you don’t understand satire without saying you don’t understand satire.
If that’s what you got from my comment, you really shouldn’t be participating in this comment thread. Please leave the conversations for the grownups in the room, thanks.
All the grownups that downvoted you for being objectively wrong?
Gremlins, watching it as an adult I realized it is not suitable for young kids 😅
Man… I remember having fond memories of it. Plus, sort of a Christmas flick. So come winter break, I turn it on for my eight year old. I get to cooking dinner and about 45 minutes in, he’s shaking from it. He slept in our room for the first time in years that night. And the next night. And the next.
Literally just told his mom he’s still scared of gremlins. This will be one of the parenting regrets.
If I were to watch Dragon Ball Z now, I’d probably drop the series. I still remember it fondly, but it’s too slow.
The first two seasons of the Pokémon anime aged well for me. Individual games, too. But the series as a whole felt from an “I know all 386!” to “…it’s a Tentaquil”.
Chrono Trigger went from “it’s okay, it’s fun” to “…I spent my whole life underrating it, didn’t I?” So did Final Fantasy VI.
Same deal with Dostoyevsky. I guess you need some maturity to understand things.
Baudelaire, though? Hard pass.
I still love 1984 and Animal Farm, but I want to drown 90% of the muppets talking about them.
I can’t stand Legião Urbana any more. Pink Floyd on the other hand aged well, so did Nenhum de Nós.
To be honest I was never too much into movies. There’s one or another thing that I like (Modern Times, 8 1/2, The Shining), but it’s mostly unchanged.
I think that’s what Dragon Ball Z Kai was trying to solve, the ridiculous pacing.
Granted, the pacing sucked back then too. I remember it taking years to get to the event where Goku finally went super Saiyan. That whole Namek saga dragged on for far too long with nothing actually happening.
Jesus, dude! I felt like I wrote that!
Watched Beetlejuice with the kids last night. Not as funny as I remember, and they weren’t laughing either.
OTOH, we all thought The Lost Boys was still pretty cool.
Blazing Saddles next?
The show Psych used to be a favorite of mine. When rewatching it recently, there’s a string of episodes a few seasons in that are just straight up all racial stereotypes
That’s interesting. I rewatch psych (as my comfort show) all the time and couldn’t really think of anything egregious. Mind sharing which episodes?
It’s been a hot minute, and I don’t particularly want to spend too much time on it, but I think season 5 episode 1 was the final straw with how they handle Chinese culture.
gilmore girls
after a few re-watches i realized what a terrible person lorelai is, making it hard to watch
You should refer to her as her nickname, Rory, since they’re both Lorelei.
I’ve avoided rewatching Ace Ventura Pet Detective due to the transphobia
I recall in Boston Legal, William Shatner’s character said he liked Trump (this was before his presidency) and that has made me less interested in a rewatch
What happened in Ace Ventura Pet Detective?
Practically the whole movie is a trans joke. I rewatched it years ago and was so bummed out.
My reaction anytime I watch something with Jim Carrey. He was like a fad we just keep now for the novelty, no offense to him.
There’s a woman who is revealed to be trans and a bunch of guys start dry-heaving upon learning this information
Not to mention Ace Ventura’s too-long scene of showering, burning his clothes, using a plunger to make himself throw up etc. So you kissed someone you didn’t know was trans, grow up.
I mean, it’s technically the police force’s fault for being so “into” her in the first place.
