If you ask me, I’m upset no one picked up that this consideration was sexist and racist, although it is indeed the best choice for her to win, which reflects how bad US can’t get over race and gender.

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    Yeah, so was Biden when he was VP.

    Everyone knows this, I do t know why so many people are treating it like a revelation. Mainstream news was openly saying it as soon as she announced she was running.

    Her VP would be an older white guy for “diversity” of the ticket.

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      meanwhile, trump who will claim he’s “most qualified” for the job, REFUSES to let his college transcripts go public. i’m going to go out on a limb (except, not) and say he cheated his way through college, as with everything else, OR he’s a straight D student, hilariously

      this is of course ignoring all the lying, raping, treasoning, failed businesses, failed presidencies, and other wannabe con man shit.

      but people will still vote for him, because people are stupid gullible suckers

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    All VPs are basically picked because of what they are more than who they are. Since there aren’t a lot of actual duties assigned by the constitution, VPs are just picked to help win the election. That means their age, gender, skin color, birthplace, etc are more important than their achievements. That means almost all VPs, including Vance, are “DEI hires.”

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      I’d argue Walz bucks this trend, at least to a certain degree. His progressive policy and seemingly unwavering integrity seems to be a huge reason he was picked. They’ve leaned into his achievements and republicans are desperately grasping at straws trying to criticize him.

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          8 years of Harris and then 8 years of Walz.

          16 years isn’t much in the grand scheme but maybe in that time The Left can wake up and mobilize and actually make some progress towards election reforms so we can start un-fucking the last 50 years of GOP-Heritage Foundation Trickledown Reaganomics Bullshit that’s destroying the country.

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          Completely agree. He also just seems like a better candidate vibe wise so far, he’s funny and endearing in a way Kamala is not. Although I do vibe with Kamala’s dorky/weird moments that so many seem to criticize.

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        It’s still about perception over tangible benefits, though. He’s not chosen because he’ll make progressive decisions, he’s chosen because he helps encourages progressives to vote come November. Just like if he was black or hispanic would help push those demographics to vote in the general election.

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    Yes because a black woman needs a white man to “balance” the fact… :)

    America is a very strange country.

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      You shouldn’t eliminate someone just because they are a 60 year old white guy. He has an extensive track record of getting progressive policies passed with a 1 vote majority. By your logic, no one should be touting Bernie who is just as white and older.

      He’s not even a boomer, he’s gen x.

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        He was to build a bridge to the evangelicals, they were all originally super skeptical of trump and needed pence.

        In some circles they were voting for trump, hoping he got impeached so they could have pence.

        All of that has shifted and Trump is their second coming, but originally, it was not like this.

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    You could also argue that he was hired for representation. The goal is not to get as many black women into power as possible, but to keep the congress diverse. So ideally, there would be half men, half women, some significant fraction black, and so on.

    She could have picked another woman as a VP, and it would not have been too bad. But from a diversity perspective, it is better to represent more parts of the population in these positions.

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      This. I don’t understand why people think diversity is a bad thing. True democracy and progress comes when everyone is well represented and everyone’s opinions are heard.

      With that said we have a lot of institutional barriers that need to be utterly demolished before the people will actually be heard. We have a long way to go, and the first step is to participate in your local elections and vote for the people who actually listen.

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        I would love to see Gretchen Whitmer but reality says we are (hopefully) ready for a woman in charge, two is sadly pushing it. Maybe in 20-40 years, it will be something to see before I die. (I’m 50). But I’m estatic about Walz!!! He so… wholesome? “Perfect”? Perfect fit. So warm and compassionate. And the ticket has GenX! We are FINALLY represented! 💙

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        The thing is… you’re not really represented because they look the same as you. Someone who could run as the Aryan candidate may represent the downtrodden PoC than someone who looks like them.

        There’s plenty of PoC who still represent the GoP, even if it’s not the same as Democrats.

        Values are about more than appearance, despite what many conservatives will tell you.

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        I understand why affirmative action is needed to somehow bring back some fairness and equality, but it is just sad that it is accepted as a permanent feature of a system that is systemically racist/mysoginist. It prevents tackling the root causes and investing in a free education system which is the only way to fix this on the long run. But anyway we have science fiction movies and series that do it right… I mean the fact that e.g. a ticket Harris/AOC is science fiction saddens me

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    there are no black people, or white people. just shades of brown from light brown to dark brown.

    I can’t believe we still use that antiquated differentiator. there can be both “white” and “black” people in the same ethnic group so it’s means next to nothing

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      Missing the forest for the trees or whatever. It’s not about skin colour but how society perceives and treats you. If Kamala isn’t black then why is she being called a DEI hire when Hilary Clinton never was?

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        I don’t know about being called a DEI hire, but I DO remember Hillary being called the worst possible option. I DON’T recall anyone calling Harris the worst possible option. Oddly enough in 2024, that would be Biden.

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        That race is nearly meaningless in the rest of the world seems like a very sheltered and privileged viewpoint. There are riots in the UK regarding race and propaganda/misinformation. I’m guessing you live in a fairly homogeneous country if race/ethic background is never specified on various forms.

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    Hmmm how should I pick out who would be a good vice president… I’ll disregard professional perspective and voting history for no reason. Let’s instead analyze the implied genitalia and melanin production in the dermis!

    Really bro?

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    I hated the way this was framed from the start, tbh I’d be more excited if she had chosen to buck expectations and put a non white guy in there.

    I mean, what are dems gonna do? Not vote for her?

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      Democrats not voting for Harris is a real threat. What you’re describing is called voter apathy. Historically speaking the republicans win the elections with the highest amount of voter apathy. Democrats win in situatioms where higher voter turnout exists.

      Essentially speaking, the democrats biggest enemy is themselves.