• Rob@lemmy.world
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    The charging port is one thing. What’s worse to me is that it’s just a shit mouse.

    Had to use one for two days recently; my wrist started hurting like hell. It lacks basic ergonomics and the scrolling is horrendous.

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    I use a wireless mouse from Logitech for work (and so does a lot of my coworkers), and never in its ~5 years of use did I use the mouse plugged in.

    The device gives multiple low battery warnings well in advance. I just plug it in before logging off after I receive the second or third warning.

    I acknowledge Apple’s obtuseness of choosing form over function with the Magic Mouse (among other devices across their catalogue), but anyone who has used a wireless mouse daily would know that it is not as big of a deal as the media and community makes it out to be every time a discussion takes place about the Magic Mouse.

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      “yOuRe hOLdInG iT WrONg” apple users will jump through any hoop to forgive apple shitting on them. I never plug my mouse in from a low battery warning, why would I when I can just plug it in and use it corded when it dies?

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        You may desperately twist words and infer more than what is written in my comment, and lose your cool, or understand that this is not as big of a deal as the discourse may lead one to believe.

        There are options for everyone.

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      There is no low battery warning with the magic mouse. it will just shut down. This is an immense usability issue to the point that I had two on standby at work because the fucking things will just STOP working. This is a major design flaw and classic Apple—they have no direction in their product creation and haven’t since Steve Jobs died.

      edit: apparently there is a warning but the fact remains it is a horribly designed product.

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        Is this true? I don’t use a Magic Mouse but my Magic Trackpad and Apple wireless keyboard both give low battery warnings.

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          I have an old, non-rechargeable Magic Mouse and there is a low battery warning in the menu bar when it gets low. OP doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

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        I don’t use the Magic Mouse because I think it’s uncomfortable, but I get notifications with my Apple keyboard and Logitech mouse, and there are native battery widgets in the control center that show for all of them (including non-Apple devices like my mouse and headphones). I find it very hard to believe that the Magic Mouse is unique and refuses to let people know its charge state.

        Whether or not that notification pops up and disappears while I’m not using the computer is another story, but I’m pretty sure those notifications can be changed to stay on-screen until they’re dismissed.

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          I stopped using them a long while ago so might not be remembering correctly, regardless, getting a low battery notification is pointless on the device since the main issue is charging it makes it unusable, at least with the keyboard and track pad you can plug them in and still use them.

          anyway, I think everyone in the world—except Tim Apple—agrees that the design is fucking horrible.

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    The last 3 web marketing startups are exclusively MacOS. I had to get all of them to let me use a PC as an exception because the mass majority of our web visitors use PCs and we are not able to QA correctly because everyone at the company uses a Mac.

    I tried to use the MacOS. There seems like there is an intentional input lag. It’s slight but it just feels slower. I have a Samsung Odyssey OLED 49 ultra wide and it restricts my fps to 120 when it’s able to do 240hz.

    It won’t let me plug in 3 monitors. And even with just 2 connected, when I’m working on a secondary screen it blurs my clock on the primary screen. But wwwwwhhhhhhyyyyyyy…!!! What’s the fucking point!!! Why do people insist on using Mac’s!!! This OS is terrible.

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      I tried to use the MacOS. There seems like there is an intentional input lag. It’s slight but it just feels slower.

      Go into the mouse settings increase the tracking speed. It’s the first thing I do on every Mac because otherwise it feels slow.

      It won’t let me plug in 3 monitors. And even with just 2 connected, when I’m working on a secondary screen it blurs my clock on the primary screen.

      I’ve got three monitors on my Mac right now and none of the menu bars are blurred out. I don’t know what you’re doing wrong here.

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        It’s not really the tracking speed but there is sort of a smoothing thing turned on. Just seems less crisp when moving the mouse around.

        It won’t let me plug in 2 external monitors. Just 1 extra one. Probably have an older Mac.

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          I have the exact same issue on my MacBook that doesn’t happen when I’m using the trackpad. Using a secondhand magic mouse or a surface arc mouse and it’s extremely delayed. I know the Microsoft mouse connects through Bluetooth, but wow is it bad.

          The latency combined with the weird mouse smoothing and acceleration that you can’t disable made me give up using a mouse and just locked me to using the trackpad

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            Dude, that’s exactly what I mean. I’m using a gen 2 mighty mouse and it was basically useless.

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        Maybe they need to be using a higher tier chip to support a monitor that big at that refresh rate? Like Apple treats it as two external monitors under the hood or something so they need to be on a Pro or Max chip?

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        I code in 240fps because I can afford it. But for some reason Apple prohibits it unless I buy their monitor.

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        Why not?

        His display is cabable of it, so why not use it to its full potential?

        Additionally, he can see web animations better and make sure they are buttery smooth on different refresh rates.

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    Make a wireless mousepad to charge it and it will not need the USB port. And it will cost 3 times as much. Let the pad charge an iPhone too. It would be perfect.

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      A mousepad? From Apple? Didn’t you know that all MacBook users use them exclusively inside a trendy coffee shop or on the couch? There’s no place for a mousepad!

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      I had something kinda like this from Corsair. Though it only had a small spot in a corner where you would place your phone/mouse.

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    The complaints about this are ridiculous. Charge it before the battery runs out. It only takes like an hour to charge anyway. This has never been a problem for me and all of the years this has been out. 15 minutes will give you enough charge for an entire day’s worth of work.

    Just plug it in and go get some coffee for goodness sake.

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      This is such a great comment exemplifying the Stockholm syndrome of apple users.

      Let me just not use my mouse for an hour because of a ridiculous design choice.

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      It definitely reflects something funny about apple’s methods. They decide how you will use their products, full stop. Sometimes that’s welcome, other times I find it silly.

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        Well, there’s no debating that. Apple has always had the philosophy that they decide how you’re supposed to use their devices, and that’s why they’re designed the way they are. Some people hate that, some people like it.

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      Good for you, Mr Prescriptivist, telling everyone else they’re “doing it wrong”.

      You’d fit right in at Apple, since your way is the only way to do things.

      Smh

      Putting the charge port on the bottom is fucking dumb. Seriously fucking dumb.

      I had a mouse 20 years ago that charged in a dock - that was 10x smarter than this fucking dumb shit.

      This garbage is part of why I don’t like to use Apple - you can do anything you want, so long as it’s sanctioned by Apple’s arrogant designers, and done their way.

      (I have 2 ipads and an iPhone, and they’re frustrating as hell to use for anything other than what/how Apple has dictated, because their supposed “intuitive” approach is anything but).

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      If there was a valid reason for why they couldn’t put the port on the side, maybe I’d agree. But literally the only reason the port is on the bottom is some designer at Apple decided they did not want to see pictures of people’s desks with cords on them, so the port got put on the bottom so no one can use the mouse while it charges, and there can never be a pic of their desk with a cord on it. Stupidest reason in the fucking world.

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      Yes, it’s such a beat-up. People don’t understand how important aesthetics is to Apple and I’m totally there for it. If you can’t stand the thought of needing to take a 10 min charge break to get through the next few hours (because you ignored the low battery warnings) buy a different mouse.

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      If Apple put out some logic behind the reasoning for the port location perhaps the complaints would diminish.

      I think the complaints are valid, as Apple is a design-focused company that usually puts the user first, both in hardware and software design. For whatever reason Apple just will not design a user-focused mouse and it’s gone from being silly to downright illogical.

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    It was never a problem for me. I don’t use my mouse 24 hours a day and the battery lasts a month.

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    Hey look I understand the annoyance but maybe apple is protecting consumers. Im no expert on this but have heard in tje past that its not good for the battery to use a device while its battery is charging.

    Yet I do this with chromebook often and the device two years later works like new. But that’s a Chromebook with an on average, bigger battery then most low cost phones/mouee.

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      not good for the battery to use a device while its battery is charging.

      Maybe because of the additional heat generation, but other than that there’s no real reason issue with doing this. Even the heat generation is a non-issue for a mouse.

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      it’s not difficult to just make the device run directly from the charger while it’s plugged in, a sensible product should benefit from always being plugged in.