Most people just want a good life. If we stopped seeing each other as the enemies the world could be better.
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Amen.
What the people who want to control us don’t want us to realize is that you have a lot more in common with the Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian/Mexican/Indian working class… Factory worker/programmer/hard-working house wife… Then you do with your own political leaders and billionaires. People with servants who don’t ever worry about bills. (Biden, Trump, Harris, Vance, Elon, Gates, Bezos, etc)… Don’t look at the foreigners as different and the enemy… Look at the Rich and the Politicians (who want us to blame the foreigners)
No war but class war.
I don’t see MAGA people as the enemy because they want to pay less in taxes. I see them as the enemy because they don’t think my kids should exist in society and are actively passing legislation to make it so.
Delete this shit take.
It may be more directed at them than you.
Something will be directed at them if they don’t knock this shit off.
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I’m not sure that’s true. One side has empathy. The other does not. I don’t want to be friends with someone who doesn’t have empathy.
The world is not binary like that. Your side is not all good and the other side is not all bad.
I didn’t say they were “all bad.” I said they lacked empathy and I wasn’t interested in being friends with them.
Conservative and progressive brains are different.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/And one of those differences is empathy. https://academic.oup.com/scan/article/18/1/nsad029/7175525
One side has empathy. The other does not.
You generalized as if everyone on the left has empathy and no one on the right does. That’s simply not true. Group differences like this are often larger within the group than between them. While it might be true that, on average, people on the right are less empathetic than those on the left, it’s neither fair nor accurate to imply that one side has empathy and the other doesn’t.
Eh. Fits with what I see in politics, the folks voting for right winger, and my own experiences conversing with them IRL. I see no issue with making that assumption and then being pleasantly surprised the odd time it isn’t true.
Maybe it’s a North America thing, tho. It’s quite possible that the euro flavor of right wing is a more empathetic group.
Ive been down both sides of the indoctrination rabbit hole both the alt left and the alt right pipelines lead to the same place.
Ya, I’m not talking about extremists. I’m talking about just normal everyday people.
Exactly. So therefore ur side who contains its own extremists cant be all good can it. Therefore ur binary view us fundamentally flawed. The more u try and stick to it claim ur side is all righteous and the other side is all evil the the more u become the extremist u claim to denounce.
Never said my side was righteous. I said that one of the main differences between the left and right is empathy. This isn’t an opinion, it’s peer reviewed fact.
It’s bleeding obvious, even without the science.
Every single facist ideology has claimed moral superiority to justify their actions. What makes ur ideology any different from that?
Also pls show me said peer reviewed journals u claim to have.
One would need empathy to see it that way ;)
I kind of see your point there. My hope though is that maybe people could gain more empathy for each other by understanding that we are all human and I hope that one day people can understand each other’s struggles.
nah.
I can’t have empathy for fuckheads that want to kill and imprison people based on their sexual preferences or their identity.
I refuse to subject myself to the torture of “working together” with people with fascist ideologies.
I cannot, and will not, coexist with Nazis.
I think op meant more along the lines of normal, everyday people, not radical extremists who hate everyone that isn’t like them.
and by normal, I mean non hate driven people. I believe everyone is weird in some way, there is no “normal”.
the way I described it to my son is everyone has the same right to be happy as he does, you don’t get to dictate that to anyone. we love you for your weirdness and expect the same for anyone else.
White supremacists are not radical extremists in the West, they are the norm. They might be more nuanced than those who display overt bigotry but not by as much as they like to tell themselves.
Like South Park on religion: “you’re all so focused on the stupid little differences that you’re not seeing the big, stupid similarities.”
And someone says they are a trump supporter and suddenly its all just calling everyone a fascist time.
You know what, you’re totally right. There’s plenty of other accurate single-word descriptions that could be used to add some more variety:
Shortsighted, dogmatist, sociopath, mysognist, bootlicker, Neanderthal, degenerate, cultist, egotistical, simpleton, supremacist, etc.
U and the other 7 people who downvoted really did miss op’s point lol.
OP says everyone just wants to have a good life, you come in an intentionally antagonize people. It’s pretty clear who missed the point.
Yep. And a classic case of someone dishing it out without being able to take it. If someone wants to be an antagonistic jerk, they don’t have the right to be shocked Pikachu and pretend to have the moral high ground when their attitude is met in kind.
They get really mad when you point out that Harris is also fascist by there definition.
In reality they are in a echo chamber where they only see good things about Harris and bad things about Trump
Democrats can be considered fascists by their own definition, but let’s not pretend MAGA is any less of an echo chamber. On zero hands, I can count the number of times that a MAGA member actually knew anything about gender affirming healthcare while arguing with me why it shouldn’t exist.
The only thing that should matter is the candidates representing both sides are corrupt trash that put the interests of their multimillionaire friends and corporate lobbyists over their own constituents.
Zero hands hey? So never?
Yup we’re all idiots
No. Some people want to control other people because of their various sky daddies or a simple greed. And those are the ones fucking up your life. Everyone else could more or less get along, but fanatics, billionaires and other people hungry for control of others are actively make sure we don’t.
fanatics
Half of Lemmy users included in that group
This is something we all need to remember
Have empathy and realize that people can have there own views. They aren’t dumb because they disagree with you
Actually, I’m special. The right told me my parents told me so.
I’m more special. I look down on you derisively.
Exactly what someone who’s just like everyone else would say tbh
I’m so much more like everybody else than you.
Bro is an amalgamation of people LMAO 🤣
True. For example we are all made of
deliciousnutritious meats.Paradox of tolerance
There is an old saying where I live:
वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम् (Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam)This means, the world is one family.
Every molecule that makes up our entire existence came from the fusion of a hot star, and no matter what it looks like right now, it will once again be both the precursor and the product of many more stars.
In that regard we are all identical and inconsequential.
Yes, it gets problematic as soon as extreme positions and mentalities enter the equation. All extrem positions are toxic, extreme left, extreme right, extreme religious (any religion), extreme fans of a sports club, extreme anything doesn’t matter.
If we could find some kind of balance, some true middle ground without huge extremes, then the world would be a much nicer place.
Or maybe work more on joint legislation
The way it works now is that each party eventually gets control and reverts previous legislation. Instead they should focus on passing more laws that are more agreeable to both sides.
My comment was more in general for all of society, not only political parties.
But yes, for political parties that would be great!
