Jeep is a Stellantis product. Literally the worst quality auto manufacturer in North America. They are circling the drain and jacking up the prices on their vehicles and making Pikachu faces when they don’t sell. Their only customers are people who don’t know how to research their purchases, and putting advertisement hell into their cars is another example of that. I suspect they will not be in business a decade from now.
I work in the auto industry. Can confirm, Stellantis is in bad shape. I wouldn’t buy anything from them.
What’s confusing is that some great auto brands from Europe are under Stellantis (Peugeot and Citroen at least)
And they’re actually not doing a shitty job in designing or selling their vehicles. It’s mainly the Chrysler brands or basically the US brands under Stellantis. I seriously hope the shit happening in Chrysler doesn’t come trickling down to the other brands
Turns out regulations are good for businesses.
Regulations are definitely excellent for both businesses and consumers in the long term. But businesses are often too stupid to see past ANYTHING “quarterly”.
That depends on the business culture and how good their advisors are. And also the size if the business matter.
But yeah generally angelosaxton companies who have a mangement structure that’s way more in depth than it needs to be fuck these things over
“Either the Line Goes Up or the Rope Goes Up” - evil CEOs everywhere
They’re good for longevity, but they’re bad for quarterly profits. In the US, we care much more for the latter.
Peugeot and Citroën have their own issues in Europe (and technically in America) with the recall of car due to defective airbags.
Out of curiosity, who would you buy from?
Out of the American big three, I have the most confidence in Ford. I’ve worked with engineers at all three, and the ones at Ford are the ones that I felt were most compitent.
That being said, my next car will probably be a Toyota or a Subaru. Both way better than the American OEMs.
It’ll be less than a decade
I had two Jeeps, first was originally my dad’s. It was an old shitbox. The other one was a somewhat old shitbox. 1998 & 2010. We dumped more time and money into them than I’d care to admit.
“Speed”, but instead of a vehicle exploding, it’s to avoid ads.
Officer, “Why’d you run that red light?”
Me, “If I hear the Meow Mix jingle one more time I’m gonna snap!”
Jeep, having heard you mention a product, dutifully plays the relevant ad.
Please drink a verification can.
Officer: Why were you speeding?
Me: Wanted to avoid ads.
This isn’t even funny… This is something people will do. Jeep doesn’t give a fuck about safety. FUCK Jeep.
Jeep isn’t a true company anymore it’s just another brand under Stellantis. So FUCK stellantis and every other brand under them.
I thought this was a funny onion type of article… It isnt. Wtf
Our whole existence has turned into an Onion article.
It really has. And it’s getting worse every day. I wish that was hyperbole.
I thought this was the onion for a moment
Furthermore: Slashdot still exists? And it still has an active community in the comments!?
Lemmy alone hasn’t been enough to replace reddit for me; I should see if I still remember my old password…
Slashdot still has a good feed of articles. I never quit it 🤣
Yep it is slow but steady.
Fark is still around too.
Fark rules!
The site is still there, but the comment sections are no longer fun nor do you find intelligent feedback as frequently as you could in the early days. Last time I was poking around there, the mods were upvoting climate denial comments. So much for science. (source: low uid)
This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.
Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.
They’d grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.
Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.
This is why we need government that isn’t in the pocket of corporations.
We need something like lawmakers having to disclose their tax information annually. If you want to be in office and make millions you should be willing to put your morals on the review table.
they would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.
No, they would require you purchase these because their business can’t sell their products without them, but they’d make you pay a subscription for them to keep working, and when you stop paying the subscription, the car stops turning on until you pay your monthly airbag and seatbelt fee.
Hey, you might want to team up with Sony…
DRINK VERIFICATION CAN!
Roll verification coal to continue
FTFY
Is this real?? Do you have the source?
I’m lost for words.
…what if the whole family is watching? Does everyone have to raise their hands and yell “McDonalds”? Including the kids?
This might just as well be used in “smart” fridges. “Do this corporate dance to get 20% off your next Corn Flakes”
There’s just no way I’m ever going to do this.
Honestly, I’d rather go forage for twigs and berries than interact with ads.
Here you go
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sony-patent-mcdonalds/
Edit: I didn’t see the other comment, oops
Wasnt there also something about showing ads while your show is paused now too?
I’m ready to go back to kodi.
Happens on Prime now
Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram,
Not just a Jeep thing. at least not for long.
Holy cow. They’ve done the impossible - they’ve found a way to make a Dodge into a shittier vehicle. I am awestruck.
All the brands of vehicle that have some of the worst historical reliability!
Old cars are gonna be so expensive.
I wonder how hard it would be to make an open source car brain that can be a drop-in replacement for the commercial ones?
Hard, even stuff from 10 years ago have proaitary hardware across multiple “brains”.
I drive a 2006. I have physical buttons and a shifter where my hand can lean on. Its great. lol
I think anything 2008 and before is kinda a sweet spot for car driving quality. After the subprime crisis its like all the car makers went to shit.
I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?
Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I’ve owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it’s worth.
Yup, Toyota has been solid for me. Though admittedly, they’re also one of the worst in regards to data privacy; You should assume that every single thing you do in a Toyota is being recorded and sent back to a Toyota server for ad/tracking purposes.
Lol what? Ur car got internet?
Just pull the OnStar /gps fuse
I’m on year 9 of my 10 year car plan. Current vehicle is supposed to become the kidmobile and I planned on a new one.
I won’t buy a new car though. If I do replace mine, it will be a used, unconnected car. I am so tired of iPads on wheels.
my 2008 BMW is the last without a computer screen and none of that stupid knob and I had to seek it out but it was absolutely worth it. Bonus that I can actually work on the car my self!
I think cars peaked ca. 2010. Anything added after that are annoyances or things being taken away.
If I could get a brand new facelift E90, that would probably be my next car.
Toyotas are still good
Toyota Sales here Boy do I have some BMW Heated seat subscription crap to sell you
(Its not quite as bad as BMW. But one thing that really irks customers is the remote starter is restricted to a subscription service. unless you’re one of the lucky ones who got a vehicle that installed the wrong part/fuses. in which case you can still remote start your car with the fob. its still very finnicky)
Yeah that remote start subscription really pissed me off. If i could confirm a way to give them even less data i would.
I am still awaiting my first map update to my nav system that has free lifetime map updates, my truck will be 10 this year.
Mercedes also includes a number of items as a subscription in some countries. Some stuff is app related. Others are things like getting full use of your rear-steering wheels and unlocking extra horsepower.
This only applies to GM EVs. Friend has a 2025 ICE Chevy which has both AA and CarPlay. Still dumb that the EVs don’t have it though.
Something to consider…
Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.
Tesla’s have their own privacy issues, and build quality issues . Tesla’s staff have been caught spying on their customers and sharing sensitive images of people .
That practice was halted and now the vehicle video is under MUCH stricter control with an option to not share any of it at all.
Given the choice, I’d rather have some Tesla employee joking about what I park next to than Tesla Inc selling my driving data to insurance companies like most other automakers do…Believing any of that means trusting President Elon Musk. I certainly don’t
Oh, he’s just going down a rabbit hole! He’s going on a cute little adventure where he does a fucking Nazi salute in front of the whole country, then proceeds to recklessly dismantle huge parts of the US government, but it’s all just part of his magical little journey! Teehee!
then proceeds to recklessly dismantle
huge parts ofthe US governmentJust give him a few more weeks.
Doesn’t Tesla lock larger battery capacity begging a paywall?
That was from years ago.
Tesla used to sell cars rated by pack capacity. For example the ‘P85D’ was the performance model, 85 kWh pack, dual motor.
There was also a 40 kWh (cheaper) and 60 kWh version.
After a while they stopped building 40 kWh packs and just software-locked the 60 kWh pack to only have 40 kWh of usable capacity. I think for a while they offered an upgrade where you could pay to unlock the extra capacity.I don’t think they’ve done that in some time. I know when I bought my car (model y long range) they didn’t even advertise the pack capacity nor was any upgrade offered. The only paywall thing I’ve seen with Tesla is FSD and they’re pretty transparent about that. I don’t think they’re awful for paywalling it, because if they build the car without the FSD hardware it won’t have other safety systems like lane departure notification.
Rainbow road mode is a bitch
the cars are fucking solid.
Try driving through a car wash without activating “car wash mode”. 😂
I’ve done it. I think it might have opened the charge port or something. What do you think happens?
Tesla? You mean the Ford Pinto of EVs?? https://www.rawstory.com/cybertruck-2671127676/
I was looking for a car a few months ago and was looking at newer models, used, but mostly less than a decade old. Then I started reading about all the tracking and such.
I gave in to my inner teenager and bought a 2001 Porsche 911.
The entertainment center can connect via Bluetooth but there’s no Android Auto, no navigation. It has Sirius XM but I never had a subscription to it and never will.
I might add a backup camera but that’s it. My phone is more than enough tracking, even with as much of it shut off as possible.
This is the way.
Add in a magnetic charger phone mount and you’re golden in my opinion.
A previous owner mounted one where the cigarette lighter was. I’m going to replace it soon since it doesn’t really fit - I can’t charge my phone in the holder.
Maybe I’ll finally learn FreeCAD and print my own.
If you do want to learn a guy on YouTube by the name of mangojelly has been extremely inciteful for me
Damn, sweet ride dude! Congrats!
Thanks! The next car on the list was a 2004 Honda Civic Si hatchback manual.
I honestly would have been happy with either car. Having so much fun with the Porsche though.
This is the way.
Yeah. Sometimes my bank account gets sad but I don’t.
Yeah, but other than a hybrid, fuel efficiency plateaued at some point before bells and whistles started being added to a surveillance system.
Drivers don’t need to be watching the road, they need to be watching this ad.
Holy shit. For the love of Luigi, this is terrorism.
It’s only terrorism when poor people do it.
This is just one of the many reasons I have no interest in new cars. If it needs an internet connection then I’m not buying it. There are very few things I need my vehicle to be able to do and having access to internet isn’t one of them. I don’t even like that my truck has automatic wipers - I vastly prefer the traditional ones. Hell, I don’t even need the radio.
Honestly, fuck the whole thing, I’ll take my bike. With blackjack. And hookers.
Honestly, fuck the the bike, it will save you from purchasing a hooker
But then who will I play blackjack with?
I’ve known several Jeep owners over the last decade and those that weren’t buying it strictly for the ‘Jeep clout’ as an actual vehicle/daily driver had constant issues, while under warranty, and dealt with issues even trying to get said warranty work done. Like that wasn’t enough for me, on top of that I had a mechanic with his own shop that said he’d never touch another Jeep because of how horribly they are designed to work on. Anything from ease of access to work on the engine to bolts stripping out because they were overtorqued during assembly and made with shit metals that would sooner melt than come off in one piece. Now this? Yeah, hope they go bankrupt. This is just as bad as BMW and their ‘pay a subscription for seat warmers’ bullshit.
dodge in general did not do well on realiability, Thing is they have neat engineering. So I loved the grand caravan but they killed it to try and get folks to pay toyota prices for their shit and its like no. You vehicles have to be ten grand cheaper so that you amoratize the repair bills.
The dodge caravan was my teenage car. I loved it. Big. Ugly. No one wanted to drive with me and that was perfect because they also would have tried smoking in the car and I’d have broken out in hives. I miss you, dodge caravan.
Yeah its to bad they got rid of it and they did some things that ruined the pacifica that took its place. For people with limited mobility the seats are the perfect height where you don’t drop into them and you don’t have to climb up into them. Being able to stow all the seats and in more recent time the roof rack is just incredibly useful. Then all the basic minivan things are really great. sliding side doors, the rear window winglet things and then the rear hatch. urge to suddenly go camping just have to back it up to the firepit and you can roast marshmellows in the rain.
You know, I’ve got to give their marketing team props for managing to sell a vehicle with the engineering quality of a Saturn to people with more money than sense for a whole ass order of magnitude more than it’s worth. Game recognizes game.
Its not marketing it’s that they extend credit to anyone who comes through the door. 550 credit score? No problem sir, here is your $62500 RAM 1500, loaded with options. If you can’t pay $1000/month for a Kia why not splurge and not pay $2000/month for an optioned out truck?
Yeah I’ve never heard anything good about jeeps in general. Now they are being run further into the ground by trying to become a luxury brand. At least when it was just a shitty jeep, it was still a somewhat cheap shitty jeep.
When I was young, you (supposedly) could still buy WWII-era original Jeeps disassembled and packed into crates in cosmoline. I always wanted one of those but never had any desire to own a modern one.
