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      Americans have been sold and eat up the idea that instant gratification beats the effort needed to realize something greater.

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        In my defense, everything I worked for in the first 18 years of my life fell apart in the next two, so I’ve just kind of given up on anything that isn’t now or in the very near future.

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          "Don’t feel guilty if you don’t know what you want to do with your life

          The most interesting people I know Didn’t know at 22 what they wanted to do with their lives

          Some of The Most Interesting 40-year-olds I know still don’t"

          -Sunscreen

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        No no you see, Americans work* so much, they don’t have time to first learn and then practise to cook healthy meals at home. Hence fast food chains!!

        *work American style, as in staying at work long hours but also spend about 60% of their work day chatting with co workers, or on the phone, going on personal, non-work related errands, browsing the internet, selecting, getting, eating, and ridding their bowels of food.

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          Try getting a blue collar job, and tell me again how the majority of American workers are slacking. Must be nice over there in your “office job,” that clearly can be done working at home.

          Also I don’t know about other office jobs, but in IT, it was feast or famine. When there was work to be done, we worked 100 hour weeks, but when we finally managed to put out all the fires, yeah we would spend weeks at a time working on side projects, not slacking off.

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            Blue collar? I was obviously not talking about you losers, so shut your gd mouth and go back to pounding rocks.

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          i just learned (on Lemmy) that Americans basically don’t get raises annually. 1 or 2% raise apparently is the burn. so 40% work in a work day sounds way too much for me. good job, American workers. those fuckers don’t deserve your labor even at 40%. keep slacking, i say.

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            American workers. those fuckers don’t deserve your labor even at 40%. keep slacking, i say.

            I wish. That person has never seen what blue collar workers go through. In food service for example, and I literally cannot stress this enough, YOU WILL NOT GET A BREAK. Their favorite phrase is, “If you have time to lean, you have time to clean.” This is because there will be exactly one chair in the manager’s office, so that no one is allowed to sit for their entire shift, except the manager.

            They get pissy if you ask for your federally required 15 minute break or your 30 minute lunch. This is doubly true for wait staff or delivery drivers. In fact I have been told by multiple bosses at delivery jobs that if I try to take a break at the store, I will be fired.

            The rule of thumb over here seems to be, “the less you are paid, the more you WILL work.”

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              every time i hear anything about the US it becomes even more unbelievable that there are no guillotines in the streets “just in case”.

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                It’s because the ruling class created the biggest, most successful gang of slave hunters in human history, armed them to the teeth, and gave them immunity from prosecution. Anyone that does try to wrest some power back from the ruling class, historically, gets shot.

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            Yeah but they still spend most of their lives in a place they don’t want to be in, while being prideful about how hard they work compared to all other nations

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      Imagine taking a joke without having to jab back 😂. Oh world you are so petty.

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        Imagine not being able to take a jab back without complaining. 😂

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          Imagine giving it out but not being able to take it.

          If it was just a bit of fun then, its still just a bit of fun now.

          Just to be clear, we want you to have free healthcare. Its not meant as gloating and you should be angry. Just not at us. You deserve free health care and you won’t find many British people who wouldn’t want you to have it too.

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        I just continued the “food generalisation” joke because I’m neither British nor American. I can laugh at both of you.

        You seem to be the one that can’t take a joke.

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      We eat that way because we don’t. Heart disease is the only way we’re going to end up going out quickly enough to avoid end of life hospital bills. I mean it’s not like any of us have the means to afford to retire.

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    Looks like a lovely bit of scran that does. Yall too obsessed with overdone memes to appreciate a nice bit of comfort food.

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      Nah I’m just too obcessed with spices and would like to see some used in this meal, especially on those naked potatoes.

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        You’re supposed to spice those naked potatoes with the meat and gravy. This is basically Haggis if I recall correctly, without fancy serving. And it is really good.

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        Spices on boiled potatoes? I only put salt on mine. What are you recommending?

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          As an American, this comment almost made me drop my gun and steer my F-350 off the road (I was scrolling and driving ofc). I feel so sorry for you guys, I hadn’t realized you’d been living like this since we broke up.

          You can do so much with potatoes and a little bit of spices. Maybe start out with some black pepper, or some chili powder or paprika. Old Bay would also go great. If you’re really feeling adventurous, instead of conquering India, you could pan fry the potatoes instead of boiling them, and use a little hot sauce or ketchup. For boiled or baked potatoes in particular, dressing them with some sour cream or sauerkraut can be very good.

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            I’m american, homie. I’m just not a fan of complicated potatoes is all. But i appreciate the recommendations.

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            I happen to love the other comment about us eating like we have universal healthcare because my favorite potato is the loaded one lol

            Baked potato, sour cream, bacon, chives, melted cheese… (Insert Homer drooling image)

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          Try tumeric with a bit of paprika, maybe a bit of cayenne if you like spice. Add some ghee or butter if you want something more indulgent.

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      Nearly - minced beef in gravy with some chopped vegetables thrown in (usually peas and carrots), next to boiled potatoes (that are usually mashed up).

      Some parts of the UK have bread and butter as a side with everything.

      It is a hearty dinner mind - it’s not flashy or instagram-ready, but it is tasty and fills you up.

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        Rationing lasted until the mid-50s and left a lasting impression on people’s diets. It’s taken decades to recover socially, mainly with the aid of foreign cuisine.

        Indian immigrants are the MVPs 👍

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          At first, I thought that you declared Indian immigrants as a minimum viable product. After some googling I guess it’s meant to be most valuable players. Small but significant difference. 😂

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            While we’re on this tangent, I’ve always felt the need to point out the following.

            Minimum Viable Product = Poorly planned, or not planned at all, crappy product that is created in haste by overworked, stressed out developers to make some middle manager in a suit and sneakers type feel like they’re doing something to please corporate, because they don’t have the guts or good sense to push back. This abomination is usually sold as “we’ll flesh it out in phase two.” Phase two never happens, because they’re off chasing whatever other shiny thing they think is important. Also, the last MVP that they farted out “didn’t gain traction.” /rant

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              In short, consultancies.

              There are many good ones, and many rip off artists who spend as much time disguising their horseshit as they would just doing real work. At a certain point, consultancies started hiring less and less experienced people who had to sell more and more bullshit.

              Acronyms and abbreviations are psychologically powerful; they imply something is commonplace or important to the point of it not needing to be spelled out. When you suddenly coin a random one you can pretend you know something the listener doesn’t-- you’re right back to the emperor’s new clothes–most people are too scared to ask. Any industry, same shit.

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                I like all the acronyms and shit. It helps me know who to ignore, or avoid working for / with.

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          I mean, we had rationing in Italy too, but you don’t see people struggling to make a passing meal here. I’m pretty sure we were also much poorer than the British both going into and coming out of WW2

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            Britain was extremely import-based, which is why it lasted so long even after the war.

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        Savory mince is simultaneously one of the best and worst meals I’ve ever had in my life. When its done right its amazing, when its bad its proper fucking garbage.

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    I know British food tend to be memed as “brown stuff”, but this doesn’t even look half bad, the lighting makes it look worse than it actually is.

    Slap an Instagram filter on it and it will look way better.

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      The unseasoned boiled potatoes and the untoasted bread are just bland.

      The ground beef and carrots in the undefinable brown liquid would be a textural nightmare. I cannot fathom how it tastes because the closest thing in the US would be a sloppy joe.

      The real problem with this is lack of technique and seasoning.

      Here’s how I would “fix” this: Toast the bread, roast and season the potatoes, make the ground beef and sauce into a something resembling Salisbury steak, and cook the carrots as their own side dish.

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        Laugh at this ne’er-do-well who can not see the beauty of a plain slice of buttered white bread.

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        The bread is a sop. You can’t sop with toast; that’s insane. The “undefinable brown liquid” is stock and is common across the world’s cuisines. If you season the potatoes further, assuming they’re lightly salted, you run the risk of overseasoning the dish (they’re sitting next to a very rich stew). You’re just making these up now.

        I cannot fathom how it tastes

        Then don’t say anything! Easy peasy!

        Edit to add: The only problem as it were with this food is that it lacks colour, so of course you wouldn’t serve this at a restaurant. But when’s the last time anyone gave a fuck about colour when bashing out tea on a thursday eve?

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        The closest thing in America would be a meat gravy meant to go on mashed potatoes. My family always cheaped out on seasoning and used a French onion soup seasoning packet, so thats the majority of what it tastes like to me.

        One of my favorite dishes from being a kid, would put corn on top of gravy on top of mashed potatoes.

        The stack of buttered bread is disgusting. My parents used to do that when I was a kid though and I didnt question it.

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      A thick beef stew with boiled potatoes and buttered bread was a common meal in my 90s Midwestern USA childhood. It is delicious

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      It’s reasonable food! Most people are pretty bad at making photos look good, myself included.

      I’d want a bit more seasoning on the potatoes but man, potatoes are delicious in almost all forms, even when they look plain.

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    FWIW it wasn’t the Germans flying overhead that led to the shitty food and not much of it - it was the Germans in their submersible tin cans that were the big problem.

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    “Bloody Indians, Pakistanis and Indians, coming over here, inventing us a national cuisine.”

    If you get the reference, you have exquisite taste in comedy. Basic Lee is on tonight!!

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    The yanks seem to be attracted to this meme like somebody desperate to paint a target and distract attention away from themself.

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      Things are pretty fucked here and what I thought were saner parts of the world seem like they’re starting to fall for the same shit. We need distractions.

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      Funny, but sadly, I’ve seen my best friend sharing these memes (neither from the U.K nor the U.S.).

      Since the first time I saw them, I thought they were kind of rude and probably inaccurate as no national cuisine is dull. I googled and read… What seems to have happened is that we’ve normalized British cuisine because it is part of many countries now. We think British dishes are regular dishes. Anyway, I don’t like these memes.

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        Watched Once Were Warriors last night and the dinner Temuera Morrison has in that is even more bland and basic than any of these memes. So it’s more of classist meme than anything.

        Also, I think you’re right about loads of core British dishes just being ubiquitous now. My American colleague told me about the Shepherd’s Pie he made, which apparently came out a bit too rich.

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      Plain boiled potatoes are meant as an accompagnement, you’re not supposed to just eat them on their own. They’re great at that, even the French do it and I think everyone can agree the French know a thing or two about cuisine.

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    The Aussies would just grab all that and wack it into a shortcut / puff pastry meat and potato pie. Not half bad actually.

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      It is basically a meat pie filling just with potatoes instead of pastry. People will look down their noses at this because of the plating and then happily eat hundreds of extremely similar foods.

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    British Empire conquered the world at one point, and had access to unimaginable variety of spices, herbs, flavors and tastes.

    and they still eat nothing but boiled vomit.

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      • It builds character.
      • You were supposed to use more expensive ingredients to make your food “tastier”.

      EDIT: I meant all of these sarcastically!😭

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      Same. I dont even know what it is. It’s like they wanted to make shepherds pie but they were too lazy to mash the potatoes

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      I was just thinking what the hell is it supposed to be? I’ve never in my life eaten that. Spray “cheese” anyone?

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        Over in the province we’d call that mince and onions, obviously being part of the island of Ireland the potatoes are inferred from kt being a meal.

        The yanks might be taking the piss, but as far as I’m aware they put it in a bap and call it a sloppy Joe (which frankly sounds like a sex act).

        Tangentially, other fine Northern Irish cuisine includes the vegetable roll, which is primarily a sliced beef sausage with a wee bit of onion and celery. Tasty.

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          Brother, just because you call your hamburger meat mince doesn’t mean you know how to handle it better than us here in burgerland. Our sauce for it not only includes onions but also tomatoes and, in true American fashion, sugar(either from ketchup or brown sugar). And of course, said hamburger meat goes in a bun, not on a plate unless you’re serving it with noodles from hamburger helper. What savages.