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    My grandpa told me “always call your boss sir, and respond “yes sir”, youll be promoted real quick.”

    First day at my first job my boss tells me “by the way you don’t need to call me sir, just Brian”

    Its actually insane that the world that boomers lived in was that simple.

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      Dutch has a formal and informal 2nd person word (think “you” vs “thou”).

      I have an intern who will not stop using the formal version, and it feels super awkward. I keep telling her to stop it, but she said she always uses with older people…

      She’s 23, I’m mid 30s. Ouch.

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        At least she doesn’t help you cross the street. Yet.

        “Is your lunch soft enough? Should I cut it up for you? We have a blender back in the kitchen if you want?”

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        Do you mean je vs u? Could you tell me more about which would be appopriate in settings like a police control, a shop or a campsite? I’m learning dutch but still trying to grasp those things :)

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          Welcome to dutch, where there are more exceptions than rules, and the natives just ignore the rules anyway!

          In general, “Je” is by far the most common form. Children use “u” with adult strangers, adults are generally only expected to use it with people in authority positions, but that’s becoming more and more rare. It’s still polite to use “u” with strangers, but nobody will be very upset if you don’t, unless you’re addressing a judge, mayor or your boss’s boss.

          Some people address their grandparents formally, but most don’t. It’s still considered polite to use it with much older people, like 30+ years older, but hardly will be upset if you don’t.

          Quite a few companies require customer-facing jobs always use “u”, to be respectful, but even that is getting less. My city sends me letters with “jij” nowadays.

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        Fun fact about English, “you” was actually the more formal one. But since we don’t use “thou” anymore, and most people know it from old-timey speak and church, we think of it as more formal today.

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          Well, people in the past talked MUCH more formally than we do.

          If I talked to my grandfather in 1400 the way I talk to my husband today, he’d probably disown me.

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          Fun fact about Dutch: The informal is ‘jou/je’ and de formal is ‘u’, the last one, however, is pronounced like English ‘you’, the former is pronounced like old-time-english thou.

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      That advice could also be harmful to your career. Being subservient like that will make sure that your boss will never see you as an equal as e.g. a potential successor

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      sir doesn’t sit well with me either for work positions, I say it to be nice sometimes, but not because you’re my boss. and if someone calls me sir, my response is " I’m not your sir, just call me …"

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    “Find a job doing what you love, and you’ll never work a day in your life.”

    I used to love software. Then all the Lumberghs took over.

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        In our next union agreement “only one unified timesheet ever” is a demand we’re putting forth.

        And you know for us to put that in the deal and see what it’ll cost us in return, we’re fucking fed up.

        I feel like that’s the same as a TPS report.

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      Hobbies always change when they become a job because it transitions from well thought out, interesting and creative projects to mass production and monotony.

      As a hobbyist you have the ability to discover and work on unique, novel projects, without stress but professionalism is about consistency and speed.

      Usually by running the business you can dedicate some time and resources to the fun and novel stuff. Thats how I run mine at least, as a woodworker. I don’t crank out high grossing trendy stuff day and night but take the time to explore new ideas and get creative with it. That and using handtools instead of power tools.

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        I find a lot of resonance in this comment, but my experience is striking out in 3D art.

        Thankfully I’m friends with the client and it’s not a hard deadline but I’m a month over on a sculpt because I have to learn new techniques, particular to this model, and I feel the need to get it right the first time because it reflects on me.

        I know I’ll get faster with experience but I’m asking myself if doing this professionally from a for-hire standpoint is going to make me loathe it in the long run, because business is all about faster and more and more and faster. I’m considering making my own work to sell as 3D printables or games in the future while I keep the lights on by slinging coffee or something…

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      Do you mean you used to like writing software by yourself, on creative projects that you were passionate about?

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      I mean, I 100% agree with this one. If I’m going to be at work eight hours a day, five days a week, I better damn well enjoy it.

      I’m a software dev, too, but have always left companies / teams soon after a Lumbergh took over. That was always a very good career move for me, and I am almost always pretty excited to go to work.

      Plus, Lumberghs will be there for things you don’t enjoy as well. That would just make it harder, at least for me.

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      Before I post this, I apologize for the content length:

      Yeah this one hurts, because I’ve heard it all my life yet in MOST situations when I research a job and think “Hey that could be alright!”

      There’s always some nasty hidden majority of it that seems to exist solely to make sure nobody enjoys doing it too much. Like there’s some misery quotient to be filled. Misery must be some kind of profit currency as a means of doing business…

      As a hypothetical example: You like working with your hands and think assembling widgets or tools might be your thing. You romanticize taking pride in your work and imagining the end user being happy with your efforts.

      But you find that once you get there, you’re a slave to some Taylorism machine that demands infinite widgets in increasingly unrealistic timespans or else. And you never see the finished product. They also ban music and glare at you like criminals the entire time.

      Or perhaps you envision that hardworking but noble slice-of-life-anime vibe, where you and some cool co-workers run a coffee shop and you’re determined to earn a reputation for the perfect brew… except it’s just you, by yourself, and a long line of grouchy jerks, and some machine is there yelling at you if you’re not doing so many transactions-per-hour and your manager is displeased because you aren’t selling two-coffees-and-a-plastic-tumbler per customer or something.

      Less hypothetical: People tell me I’d make a great teacher. Yeah, I don’t need to elaborate on those realities. (God bless you, teachers. Seriously.)

      The education system is also just a human conveyor belt at this point.

      Where are the jobs that are “just okay” or “fine”? What happened to the humble honest living? It seems like everything can fit under David Graeber’s "Bullshit Jobs" checklist anymore.

      With job satisfaction it seems either 1:100,000 odds like “career actor” or “beloved artist” or something, or you’re just in the soul-grind machine that takes a perfectly human craft or interaction and forces it through a filter of spreadsheets and “KPIs” and “metrics” and “management” that makes everyone want to stop waking up.

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          Hey that’s very kind of you. Thanks! :)

          Sometimes a topic hits me and I end up using Lemmy as a writing prompt haha. I’m glad if it resonates with people though. One day I’ll start a blog even if people don’t really bother with those much anymore. :p

          Hope you’re having a fantastic one!

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      I’d say the tasks and role of your job should at least be enjoyable enough to not hate it but what I think is even more important (and makes me enjoy my job) is the work climate, being appreciated by colleagues / customers / management, and a sense of purpose.

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        You’re totally right. I just want to be in a position where I’m not “face of the house” and actually get to talk with coworkers once in a while.

        Jobs these days seem to love putting people by themselves. I don’t even mind being by myself with a task where I can listen to music or something, but with whiny customers? Nightmare.

        The coworkers on the other side of the building who weren’t about to snap had something in common: They worked beside someone else occasionally, who wasn’t their boss.

        Before that, I was in a retail situation where I would have a cool coworker, in a small space, otherwise empty store, getting things done. But the manager would squawk at us about “hearing a lot of talking” and “that doesn’t sound like work.” Absolutely psychotic and I have no idea how I put up with that behavior.

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      Yeah old school relationships are insane. Always upset because of the “old ball and chain”.

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        I went out to drinks with older coworkers earlier in my career, and each time it was just constant wife bitching. Oh she does this, I hate that, old ball and chain. They came to me, I was in a long term relationship (who I’m now married to), and I just didn’t have anything to share. Things were going fine. They laughed and said you just wait har har har.

        Well, that was 10 years ago now. We’re happily married, our marriage is full of compromise and mutual respect. We have tiffs, but never full on screaming matches. I still don’t have anything major I’d share at a bar.

        Them though, 3 of the 4 of them are now divorced. Maybe spending all of your time at the bar complaining about your wife wasn’t the best for your marriage. But honestly too, good. If you hate them, why the hell are you married?!

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          Maybe staying at home and talking to each other about those complaints would’ve helped to work them out and compromise. Bitching to your buddies can be a good release, but it doesn’t help solve anything.

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      Sure, but in fairness I think that the intent of that saying is not to say that husbands should not be happy but to counterbalance the trend that used to be more historically prevalent in marriages for the wife to be treated as an appendage of the husband and taken for granted. If you view your partner as co-equal then arguably this saying simply does not apply to you at all.

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        I have never, ever heard it uttered by anyone except a married man who definitely meant it to mean “Give in to her every demand as written at any cost and you might have a moment of quiet.”

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      Never go to bed angry is in here too. You can see why if you also know that nothing good happens after 2AM. Sometimes you just gotta sleep whether you’re kinda mad or not.

      But I guess they didn’t have HIMYM…

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      Yeah, that doesn’t work well anymore. Gotta be a noisy dedicated worker, and be willing to move jobs a few times to start seeing the rewards

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        rewards mostly come from job hopping. Raises at every place I’ve worked arent callibrated to inflation, so your 4% raise that the boss thinks is so great is closer to 0-1%/

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        I put that into practice and just got promoted last Halloween! Let people know that you’re smart and interested in how your job works.

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      This works as long as you apply some level of thought to it. Digging a ditch with a spoon is hard work, it’s unlikely to help you get anywhere.

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      Depends. For someone else? Maybe not. On yourself? Definitely.

      Work hard studying and exercising. Self improvement I’d important, and its not related to job opportunities, but rather mastering the art of living.

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    Something along the lines of “don’t ever go to bed angry at each other.” Like, yeah, you should try to work it out, but if you fucked up real bad, don’t push it. Sleep on the couch.

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    “Fully empty your battery before charging it up again, it increases the lifespan of the battery.”

    This was true before lithium-ion batteries became the norm. But for lithium-ion batteries, the opposite holds.

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      Remembering which of my devices are old method charging and which are new method is a pain.

      I have several camping lamps from like 20 years ago that I almost threw out because they weren’t holding charge anymore, before I remembered to be fully draining the batteries and recharging them once a month. They work like new now practically.

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    “If you love something set it free, if it comes back it’s meant to be.” Nearly cost me the best relationship of my life because I was a dumb, impressionable kid that believed in wise sounding words. If you love something, hold on to it. Work for it. Don’t let it go just to “see if it comes back”.

    Same could probably be said for just about any seemingly wise sounding sayings.

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      I think it’s more about control than sending what you love away.

      “Set it free” means let your love interest choose to stay or leave on their own, don’t try to keep them caged.

      Depending on what you mean, it’s possible that your love you regret letting go of wouldn’t have lasted even if you had held it and fought.

      Though if you mean you took that saying and thought it meant you needed to push your love away to see if they returned, then yeah, that’s not a great strategy.

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        Yeah, the latter is how it was explained to me. Like, literally break up with the person you love to see if they’ll fight for you to take them back. Or push them away and wait a few years to see if they magically reenter your life or something. Crazy, I think some people believe they live in a hallmark movie

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          Ah fuck, that’s a rough lesson to learn the hard way. Like so obvious in hindsight, but if you needed to learn it, you needed to learn it before you could see that.

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          I installed a gravitic emitter in my belt that makes it feel like she has to walk uphill to approach me. Let’s see just how much she loves me, and if it’s statistically significant in its difference between how much she loves approaching the cat.

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        Could have also meant just not working to maintain it. “Let it go” could (foolishly IMO) mean “stop feeding it”.

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      Nah, that advice is still correct. The 4-year degree provides a huge benefit over not having it.

      It’s just that a lot of people don’t realize just how much shittier not having a degree in 2024 is compared to not having a degree in 1974.

      So while the baseline has gotten worse, and the actual benefit of college has shrunk, it’s still easily worth the 4 year commitment and the tuition/opportunity cost.

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        Counter-point: not everyone is cut out for a four-year degree*. Some people are better suited for trade schools. My wife worked at a university and saw a number of students that were attending just because family wanted them to, but their heart wasn’t in it. Often they’d drop out with student debt and no degree to show for it.

        *or at least when they’re young

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          a number of students that were attending just because family wanted them to, but their heart wasn’t in it

          There are probably an even higher percentage of those in trade schools or entry level trades roles. You can’t compare the worst outcomes in one category with the best outcomes in another, and should instead compare medians.

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        The 4-year degree provides a huge benefit over not having it.

        For average lifetime earnings.

        So for some it may not provide a big help.

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        There’s also a lot of things that people ignored from this advice. No one said get literally any degree, art majors have been the source of unemployment jokes since before I was born. No one also said take 5-7 years or more to get the degree either.

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        Right now trade schools are actually providing a better cost to income ratio than college.

        It’s anecdotal but my friends in the Boston area were all making 120-150 in salary plus bonus before I was even out of school and I started in software at 65k and didn’t break into that level for another 4 years. Now I make 230 but they’ve all got houses and decked out retirement funds from having that good money when they were much younger. That extra 20-30k/yr in 401k and IRA funds with 5-6 years more growth time in the market isn’t something to shake a stick at.

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          Now I make 230

          Yeah the break even point is like the early 30’s, even among people who are killing it in either path.10 years of $100k+ in your 20’s won’t be able to build up enough of a buffer against $200k+ after 30, when retirement ages are around 60.

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            It’s actually harrowing how little I have in retirement savings compared to them. I spent the first 6 years of my career paying off loans and only contributing up to my employers match. I was illiquid for multiple large economic events while they had cash laying around. They could buy cars when interest was zero. They had a house to refi when interest was zero. I feel like a millennial describing boomers but these are guys in their 30s who went to trade school.

            For me to catch up I have to put money almost entirely in taxable accounts where their money and returns are shielded from taxes. They were actually able to use a Roth for many years where I was only real able to max one out for two years before my promotion put me out of eligibility.

            The earlier you are in a market, the better off you are and trades put you into the market almost 10 years earlier than someone taking 4 years of college and then having 4-6 years of loan payments

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      Oh wow that’s a good one! There was a time where it worked out great the vast majority of the time. Not so much now, definitely aged like milk

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    Ages like milk…

    Drink a full glass of milk at every meal. Otherwise, your bones will turn to pudding and you’ll get kidnapped at the mall because you’ll be too soft to put up a fight. Or whatever scare scenarios Big Milk pushed in the US in the 80s and 90s.

    Now everyone’s drinking nut and oat milk because of health reasons and also drinking the milk of another mammal is kinda weird.

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      Because drinking “milk” from nuts and oats isn’t weird?

      People have been drinking animal milk for thousands of years so the weird ones are those pretending some heavily processed industry process isn’t weird.

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            People drink it as an alternative because it has similar gustatory properties, so yes it very much is something that can be compared to animal milk.

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            It’s called oat milk because it’s a nut-based beverage deliberately designed to mimic many of the properties and uses of actual cow’s milk. It’s not like oat milk is literally just juice pressed from oats. There are a whole series of steps, added ingredients, and chemical processes meant to make the resulting product as interchangeable for cow’s milk as possible.

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            It’s used in the same way for the same recipes. Yes, production-wise it doesn’t have much to do with animal milk, but culinarily it’s similar. Do you feel as strongly about the fact the “vegetables” as a grouping doesn’t make any biological or production sense either?

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        Nut milk is just nuts and water, you can make it yourself super easy.

        Drinking the milk of another mammal after you were weaned is freaking weird and unique to humans and unnecessary and bad for the environment and isn’t done by a significant portion of the world’s population.

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          The ability to digest animal milk is literally a genetic mutation that was useful enough to have spread to about 40% of the world’s population. Milk is an amazing source of nutrients and before food was as secure as it is now it was a lifeline during long winters.

          You can talk as moral as you like about your personal preferences but the genetic record clearly indicates that our ancestors needed animal milk to survive. And in today’s society with pasteurization making cow milk safe even in the midst of a H5N1 epidemic in cows it continues to be an amazing source of nutrients, giving a near complete baseline of nutrients for an individual’s diet. There’s a reason schools push kids to drink milk every day and it’s not just the dairy lobby

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            Your said so yourself, the genetic adaptation is present in a minority of the population and these days it’s not necessary in the vast majority of the world since the nutrients can easily be found elsewhere.

            Yes, the reason why it’s pushed in schools is very much the dairy lobby. When Health Canada created the most recent food guide they got rid of the industry’s influence and instead focused on science… Well, dairy is pretty much gone, they only say small quantities of low fat dairy can be part of healthy eating habits.

            https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/

            Guess who was pissed? The dairy industry because it needs the publicity and getting removed showed Canadians that we were just fooled by marketers.

            How does the majority of humans manage to survive without drinking it in school? 😱 Wake up, you’ve been had by a billions dollars multinational industry.

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              the genetic adaptation is present in a minority of the population

              Yes a minority of the world population, but it is present in a majority of the American population (about 70%)

              How does the majority of humans manage to survive without drinking it in school?

              My point about the schools is that kids often have craptastic diets, be that due to poor parenting or just kids being picky eaters, and milk rounds out the diet and fills in the gaps since it’s such a great source of nutrients

              Wake up, you’ve been had by a billions dollars multinational industry

              Bro I just think milk and dairy tastes good (plus it’s full of good nutrients and pretty dang healthy) and you’re being weird about pushing your personal preferences on others while making vague moral judgments.

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          There’s a significant amount of processing going on in nut milk production. Yes you can make your own which is true for a lot of foods but the stuff you buy at the store is heavily processed.

          Just because we’re the only mamal that does it doesn’t mean anything because we’re the only mamal that does a ton of stuff that doesn’t make it weird. It is definitely terrible for the planet but not sure what you mean by a significant portion of the worlds population. I’m pretty sure cheese is in almost all cultures or are you just saying straight milk.

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            Straight milk, lactose intolerance isn’t as much of an issue with cheese so it’s eaten all over the world, but drinking the milk itself is done by a minority.

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              Not the person you’re responding to, but I think that the argument “we shouldn’t do X because no other animals do it” is a bad argument in general and overall weakens your position. Because there are plenty of things that humans do that animals don’t do that are good (like developing and applying vaccines for example).

              There are plenty of other valid and good reasons to promote dairy alternatives (such as health or environmental reasons).

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                In this case it very much is a good comparison because it’s something all other mammals do until they’re weaned and we used to act the same way until domestication. In the grand history of humanity, drinking milk is an anomaly.

                Dining milk isn’t unique to humans, contrary to clothings and dentistry like someone else mentioned to try and back the exact same point you tried to make, it’s the fact that some of you can’t accept to stop drinking it and need to get it from other mammals because of lobbies that is unique.

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          I love milk but I do agree with you. Whenever I actually stop to think about it, the concept of milk is pretty damn weird. I feel the same way about eggs

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              I’m not against veganism and I’d probably be at least a vegetarian if lab grown meat was more widely available. I have celiac though so my food options are already limited so I don’t want to limit them further

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          You know what also isn’t done by a significant part of the world? Eating insects. But im not gonna go and call their eating habbits weird just because it’s not something I grew up with.

          It’s called being tolerant and accepting of others culture.

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        “Milk” from nuts and oats is just a word. Call it oat juice, oat extract, make up a new word and call it oat zligbab. The actual thing being drunk is not far from the realm of things we already drink and eat. Getting hung up on it being called “milk” is a superficial and disingenuous argument against it.

        If you want to compare the extremes of industrialized processes, are you familiar with commercial dairy farming?

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          Cats will do it? Or you mean no other animal goes to get it? Because livestock will deffo grab a boob even if it’s not mom’s.

          But it’s not industrialized by other mammals would be absolutely true.

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            Cats will drink cow’s milk, and then shit catastrophically everywhere within nine feet of the sand box except in the sand box. Kittens drink mama cat’s milk, then when weaned no more milk ever.

            Little snake eyed bean toed fluff cheeked lactose intolerating quadrupeds.

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              This is the most hilariously written PSA against the whole “cats and a saucer of milk” trope holy crap LOL.

              I don’t know where that nonsense started but it’s definitely not beneficial to the

              Little snake eyed bean toed fluff cheeked lactose intolerating quadrupeds.

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                My cat loves mozzarella cheese. It’s the one human food she begs for. She’ll turn up amd wait around while I’m making chicken soup because she knows she’ll get a morsel or two of boiled chicken, but she won’t cry at me. She cries for mozzarella when I’m making a pizza.

                If she gets her snout around any cheese I’ll be washing the ceiling.

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                  Mine also loves mozzarella! No matter how much I try to be quiet, any time I open a string cheese, he’s there in 2 seconds.

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          No other animal does what we’re doing here either. Weird isn’t necessarily bad

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    My parents separated when I was really young, roughly 5 yrs old. As I grew up and had visitation with my dad he always drilled into me “women just want a man who can provide for them, in the end they all just want money.” Being young and obviously not knowing how crazy my dad was yet, I believed him for a long time.

    Turns out when you treat people like they just want you for your money, that’s the only kind of people who will put up with you. Kinda self fulfilling. Found a nice lady now, happily married and caring about each other, not just money.

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    Find what you love, and then figure out how to make money on it.

    It worked for me, but not my spouse. Sometimes you just need to find something you’re happy enough doing to make the income.

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      Yeah, finding a career that is acceptable and pays enough to afford the lifestyle you crave is a balance. Usually that advice comes from people who love doing something that is coincidentally also highly paid.

      Also, loving something and being actually good enough at it to make a career out of it are also two different things

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      I always thought that was really dumb. After hearing stories from people then “find a skill in demand that sounds like a fun challenge” is a way better approach. I went for software but mech/civil engineering, carpentry, electrician and architect would all also be great choices.

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      Depends what part of the process you like. Some people like to be very meticulous in their hobbies, and somewhat of a perfectionist. That rarely exists in a professional environment, where everything is based on getting projects out the door, on schedule and on budget.

      I actually like banging out projects quickly, so the professional life of my hobby suits me well (woodworking). I love pounding out big mortises with a sledgehammer, planing big boards and watch chips go flying. I hate fiddling with joinery and slowly fitting them for 10 minutes (slowly learning how to do them faster). For other people, joinery is their favorite part.

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    Effectively ALL of what I was told about what makes a satisfying and successful life. I was told the right thing to do is work hard, go to school, get a good stable job, get married, settle down, have kids, buy a house, own several depreciating assets.

    Life is about being happy. Nothing else. Do what makes you happy, because that car, vacation, or other piece of consumer shit won’t. Nor will living by scripts somebody else wrote for you.

    I had my house paid off at 30 and was traveling 5-6 times a year. High-level in the gaming, lottery and promotions industries. Misery. Now I have a humble life and I paint and craft things and I go dancing. And I’m happy. I could pick up the tools again and make a highly successful Steam game, but I won’t. I already proved my point in my career and creative output, and I don’t want to anymore.

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        I gave everything away and now I live a simple life where I volunteer, work at crisis shelters, do recovery mentorship, housing outreach and other things. I am happy and I do not care about the trappings of the material world anymore. I chased the hologram until I caught it and discovered its true nature.

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            I agree, but i also get a chuckle out of getting the meme wrong on purpose: this man held the same job title for 21 years, but something about being Principal Performance Architect sucked so much that he retired within a year and became a goose farmer.

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            I made several hundred games over my 20+ year career. I started making games for the world’s first touchscreen internet-enabled kiosks, the Playdium arcade in Toronto, etc. Moved onto online game development as senior dev for GameLoft.com, made the first online pari-mutuel gaming system, introduced online lottery technology to the world’s “Big 3” lotto companies. Made the first 3D tennis game. Honestly too much to even discuss as I could go on for hundreds of pages. Most people who are older than 30 have played my games and wouldn’t know it.

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                It’s such a nutty claim for me to make… but I really believe any person on the Web circa 97-2005 and was involved in any kind of Web-based gaming has directly played at least one. Shockwave, Flash, Facebook no difference.

                If you played any kind of web- or Internet-enabled, State-run lottery product anywhere in the world between 2010-2015 I would bet my actual life. And since the games I made were all localized for international audiences they were world-wide!

                If you’ve been on a Riverboat Casino in the past 2 decades you’ve 100% played because I ran the game studio that made the games for a major supplier of riverboat Video Lottery Terminal games.

                Holy shit… I never actually stopped and realized how many lives my crappy games touched…

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      One of the things I’ve learned from my favorite psychology professor is that paying attention to my conscience, doing what my gut tells me is the right thing to do, is the most effective treatment for depression I’ve ever found.

      I used to be enamored of basically financial success and exploration. Now I most highly value the lack of things nagging at my conscience.

      I’m pretty poor, but I’m happy.

      I used to make a lot more money making software. During that time, I kept maybe 25% of the promises I made to people professionally. I would very often say “This’ll be done in three weeks” knowing I’d have a better chance of landing this or that contract, also knowing the three weeks was extremely optimistic.

      I did that all the time. Very bad character in retrospect. No wonder I was anxious and depressed. Always feeling like some kind of hunted animal. Somehow, I thought of myself as a good person because I lied to myself.

      Now I do work where I keep approximately 97% of my promises (I track this). I make less money. Honestly the work I do is easy. But the payoff in terms of my serotonin and dopamine levels is huge. I feel solid. I rarely have trouble getting started with my day.

      I’m hoping to take on slightly harder, slightly more meaningful work. But now that I have a taste of being reliable, I never want to go back.

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    ~2004. My highschool civics teacher told the class that real estate was always a good investment because it only went up. I didn’t really trust him at the time though.

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      Real estate can be a good investment, even pre 2008 crash. What can be dangerous is over leveraging. A primary residence isn’t really an investment, still worth buying though.

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        He was just echoing the same sentiment lead to all those house flippers. He was a wealth of conservative BS and that was just one of his thinly veiled prosperity gospel moments.

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      I mean, if you had money at the time and bought a house in one of the larger cities or their suburbs, you would probably be loaded by now, even though you would regret it for about 5 years after the crash

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        You have to be loaded to be loaded? Got it.

        This “teacher” also would complain about wellfare queens who had children just to claim more benefits, that the best thing that could happen to a country is to be invaded by the US because they’ll rebuild afterwards and that every Union but teacher’s Unions were obsolete today, among other things.

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      he was a terrible teacher.

      the wealthy have always considered real estate to be a liability that requires constant upkeep. they are money pits.

      this is why they truly own nothing but physical assets(gold, paintings,etc) and leverage any liquidity on acquiring assets.

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        The wealthy are buying up properties either to rent out or if they’re Chinese, to move their wealth to places their government can’t take it from. They absolutely own propriety, but not with the intent to flip.

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    Work hard and do your best at work and you’ll go places.

    Yeah I got moved around several times in the office. That’s about it.